From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id e7acc478 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2020 11:41:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 11C0A9CC11; Wed, 5 Feb 2020 21:41:24 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 215469CC07; Wed, 5 Feb 2020 21:41:07 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="JZzAMUd8"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id BFEDA9CC07; Wed, 5 Feb 2020 21:41:04 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-vk1-f176.google.com (mail-vk1-f176.google.com [209.85.221.176]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C5709CB14 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2020 21:41:04 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-vk1-f176.google.com with SMTP id i78so455216vke.0 for ; Wed, 05 Feb 2020 03:41:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=075tHk6Y/8L/WbE8X8aKP8uIDgCIFGYHbLpRvsJ4w6Q=; b=JZzAMUd8ofFKdyVglS7umLT7ohAA3rAQSOOTTdPknygY4h662fOR8yuD4+kZgGtG6X 4K6/rdJTfCKec5aB6idFjpNn5XvCinfqj3Q7kAdpyCN5Z8hg0YL+5ESCLcWQNBkM1Esh EaX6/e+I+0Xwziv7SN1hRysQbWqT6RqP+vt+qwzK8xm30uBmYdnfLNcYYQMTvROpWC77 qxvVWRrszeum+Xp/eqF1h6d17YQrizUfC2dHA9g85+PhuwzwNqqLyISpauXeH4wQK8tn Ir/OYvlYSJhKeT/icwuomQcTQQOVV19NaHvkFdqUznJr8+KYlzcT1XC+/n8drHLe0lFa NFBA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=075tHk6Y/8L/WbE8X8aKP8uIDgCIFGYHbLpRvsJ4w6Q=; b=lxcLi4FPj6rb3i/zdXAfFqN7WcjtZydZxemVlVTUNOBH3UpSosTdI3Zm4mj9jeDgzN 2sEsjyD+CrpopDEvIL8t/MNQfaHSF6cAubjaLDtY4YWhaRbvmEmPFka2MobHpYIAohMt L5B+DXLmgl8/voP91Zdxc7zalfZDYO0uER4d2gywGJDavmtDSHMHl8L42xi6jck7XDYI p6pjiBqZRZM9IomGrUcmA9Lke13XnvJ34Dlg5dGvtqtjio6Ma8cAM0eMU/YTMyb9OmaH kLusO0JT+ctfchkZsYU5Jov0guUpmH3xDFYDIqhc7N710txMkS5/hmwuFO7KL33O+eMd fP/A== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWQkjqvOcWLrfA8CriIza0h24pkICZJvvzeT8pkjqt6XGpN4Xtk qMBTP+k3uZdCiQCq4G/levT8Z54GOqrQad63qYQP2958 X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyYY7ZTr7r2H991DYgQ8L+PQEMeri1Ke5azlsHA3DkATGygHIiPDwliqdk+m0l6/KcEVBnfsYC59qUhADSfox0= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:bfc2:: with SMTP id p185mr1275652vkf.73.1580902863148; Wed, 05 Feb 2020 03:41:03 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <9c507ef665851fd21ecdf0e23136dc86@firemail.de> <1ippPk-8PE-00@marmaro.de> <1iqMuL-1zK-00@marmaro.de> <20200204094018.661e76717f7f475e6cb53e75@sjmulder.nl> <20200204201453.ebeaabon26vbgfle@localhost.localdomain> <20200204215252.GA99776@clarinet.employees.org> <20200205094944.GA68360@indra.papnet.eu> In-Reply-To: <20200205094944.GA68360@indra.papnet.eu> From: Rob Pike Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2020 22:40:51 +1100 Message-ID: To: Angelo Papenhoff Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000951bab059dd2a186" Subject: Re: [TUHS] pronouncing *nix formulas (was: screen editors) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000951bab059dd2a186 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Pretty sure q came first and was resurrected later. The system, applied rigorously, was to pick something that worked without conflict each time. Ken usually picked. -rob On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 8:50 PM Angelo Papenhoff wrote: > On 05/02/20, Rob Pike wrote: > > Also a side note about vi: Plan 9 had another program with that name. > > http://man.cat-v.org/plan_9/1/vi. The 'v' meant mips for obscure but > > consistent reasons. Yet another reason the command was pronounced V.I. > > regardless of its function. > > Actually now i wonder, was there a system behind those characters? > These are all i could find (roughly in order of appearance): > 2 68020 > 8 i386 > v mips > k sparc > z hobbit > 6 i960 > x AT&T 3210 > 1 68000 > 9 AMD 29000 > q ppc > 7 alpha > 5 ARM (7500) > 6 amd64 > 9 ppc64 > 0 mips little endian > > There's a '2' in '68020' and an '8' in '386' and maybe i can understand > 'k' as sparK, but why is v mips or q powerpc? > > aap > --000000000000951bab059dd2a186 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Pretty sure q came first and was resurrected later. The sy= stem, applied rigorously, was to pick something that worked without conflic= t each time. Ken usually picked.

-rob


On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 8:50 PM Angelo Papenhoff <aap@papnet.eu> wrote:
On 05/02/20, Rob Pike wrote:
> Also a side note about vi: Plan 9 had another program with that name.<= br> > http://man.cat-v.org/plan_9/1/vi. The 'v' meant mip= s for obscure but
> consistent reasons. Yet another reason the command was pronounced V.I.=
> regardless of its function.

Actually now i wonder, was there a system behind those characters?
These are all i could find (roughly in order of appearance):
2 68020
8 i386
v mips
k sparc
z hobbit
6 i960
x AT&T 3210
1 68000
9 AMD 29000
q ppc
7 alpha
5 ARM (7500)
6 amd64
9 ppc64
0 mips little endian

There's a '2' in '68020' and an '8' in '386= ' and maybe i can understand
'k' as sparK, but why is v mips or q powerpc?

aap
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