From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 31587 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2021 03:49:11 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 16 Jun 2021 03:49:11 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id E1ED79C9AE; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 13:49:08 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 473DE9C8E8; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 13:48:28 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="ea9AeSUf"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 396A59C8E8; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 13:48:24 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-pj1-f43.google.com (mail-pj1-f43.google.com [209.85.216.43]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 812C79C8E7 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 13:48:22 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-pj1-f43.google.com with SMTP id k22-20020a17090aef16b0290163512accedso2924926pjz.0 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 20:48:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=mcnufQrnLa/ATkV3e7eH26aAVUQ5TPlYkaWvhGkZzdU=; b=ea9AeSUfQfxjcqgVx0fn1D1w41O5e2swyWZ9/9lILch3p0KbzjWsf6+gV6TePuwZ30 z9EKFGA45BujgZxtx/XUPA54uNc4dr8dr8jIjWCBys8f2MHJqe33QDdBYBWTfXvLbRlG Yu1i72rmaGkbNB9OicgXSyJ0L0KNjXkR39mcUITuSSvXPUg2usA1j6uwJi/eCcmyMBNa Pvnh+9/+kv8njaUz7hyqd5bMsZa6sbD9+qbn1GieKcx6W7hlGFXbHiMTM/DZ6Xr29j5T liSPr5eiGsegE0QEwFnrmTWj1NiPuAh2dbRwleV+yeaaejq0B506Cdt1p1O72NFOYbH8 PSPA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=mcnufQrnLa/ATkV3e7eH26aAVUQ5TPlYkaWvhGkZzdU=; b=MJjjworgcboZQxYQhevlgpg4e6vCNhWs6lzMu4A2e+Yd8g9t7OziUd6HsHhPek6Q76 WW6hhdqoXBTtc7FXrZMsrKGvQrbbHU9QqS7PYPsbj5pGRvcRL/IDjWp0rfWG6Ch51nx9 p/N83wMPtAlHnJt+MfG9pln1SQ2U7egD+v/Gj4BdFw5lyPjBiJI+vq6gytxYQQTWbGnA ubNQuXsSReYPyQVTsV26O/rTi4ceyHX3dNzigGlyDZrNVfMn3KvYtJAJQGxyrqzpxaDm Q8IlfOdl8Uetlm/dOgzty/Y61tRiFQ4iRL3aGcvyJX2JYbqTnGMRIQljxAJ9JQkTTzvf 0iUA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533Y+onvrh7FEn0s6NdRqORGxMXNbsENPs+qE2eGSh3Nnhk6vmO1 FFRbAY15SOf1mnOUfDxZy43bsgaeXCVJerzGcgw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwDu+xCdH07c2DH7uU3I7X6cJ1Rg4LpbHAoPTmFTx8anpHD3mdoiX9GC99RA6hS+eoZj7ANUGDN2/n0adSKngY= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:b198:b029:11b:2246:e374 with SMTP id s24-20020a170902b198b029011b2246e374mr7411477plr.17.1623815301917; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 20:48:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20210615221659.ltbL6%steffen@sdaoden.eu> In-Reply-To: From: Rob Pike Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 13:48:11 +1000 Message-ID: To: Dan Cross Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000406fe605c4d9f64e" Subject: Re: [TUHS] 70th anniversary of (official) programming errors X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000406fe605c4d9f64e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" There are citations from Edison in the 19th century using the word, and a quote somewhere by Maurice Wilkes about the stairwell moment when he realized much of the rest of his life would be spent finding programming errors. That moth was not the first bug, nor the first "bug", it was the first recorded "actual bug". -rob On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 9:46 AM Dan Cross wrote: > On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 6:55 PM John Cowan wrote: > >> On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 6:25 PM Steffen Nurpmeso >> wrote: >> >>> As not being hard-to-the-core i may have missed it, but also in >>> 1951, in March, the wonderful Grace Hopper "conceives the first >>> compiler, called A-O and later released as Math-Matic. Hopper is >>> also credited with coining the term 'bug' following an incident >>> involving a moth and a Mark II. >>> >> >> Yes, but wrongly. The label next to the moth is "First actual case of >> bug being found", and the word "actual" shows that the slang term already >> existed then. Brief unexplained faults on telephony (and before that >> telegraphy) lines were "bugs on the line" back in the 19C. Vibroplex >> telegraph keys, first sold in 1905, had a picture of a beetle on the top of >> the key, and were notorious for creating bugs when inexperienced operators >> used them. (Vibroplex is still in business, still selling its >> continuous-operation telegraph keys, which ditt as long as you hold the >> paddle to the right.) >> > > Indeed, the Vibroplex key is called a "bug". I suspect this has something > to do with its appearance more than anything else, though (it kinda sorta > looks like, er, a bug). > > - Dan C. > > --000000000000406fe605c4d9f64e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
There are citations from Edison in the 19th century using = the word, and a quote somewhere by Maurice Wilkes about the stairwell momen= t when he realized much of the rest of his life would be spent finding prog= ramming errors.

That moth was not the first bug, nor the= first "bug", it was the first recorded "actual bug".

-rob


On Wed, Jun 16, 2021= at 9:46 AM Dan Cross <crossd@gmail.= com> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 6:55 PM John C= owan <cowan@ccil.org= > wrote:
On Tue, Jun 15,= 2021 at 6:25 PM Steffen Nurpmeso <steffen@sdaoden.eu> wrote:
As not being hard-to-the-core i may have missed it, but also in
1951, in March, the wonderful Grace Hopper "conceives the first
compiler, called A-O and later released as Math-Matic.=C2=A0 Hopper is
also credited with coining the term 'bug' following an incident
involving a moth and a Mark II.

Yes, but= wrongly.=C2=A0 The label next to the moth is "First actual case of bu= g being found", and the word "actual" shows that the slang t= erm already existed then.=C2=A0 Brief unexplained faults on telephony (and = before that telegraphy) lines were "bugs on the line" back in the= 19C.=C2=A0 Vibroplex telegraph keys, first sold in 1905, had a picture of = a beetle on the top of the key, and were notorious for creating bugs when i= nexperienced operators used them.=C2=A0 (Vibroplex is still in business, st= ill selling=C2=A0its continuous-operation telegraph keys, which ditt as lon= g as you hold the paddle to the right.)
=
Indeed, the Vibroplex key is called a "bug". I sus= pect this has something to do with its appearance more than anything else, = though (it kinda sorta looks like, er, a bug).

=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - Dan C.

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