From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: (qmail 29892 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2020 22:20:29 -0000 Received-SPF: pass (minnie.tuhs.org: domain of minnie.tuhs.org designates 45.79.103.53 as permitted sender) receiver=inbox.vuxu.org; client-ip=45.79.103.53 envelope-from= Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with UTF8ESMTPZ; 19 Apr 2020 22:20:29 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id BB0FE9C8BF; Mon, 20 Apr 2020 08:20:27 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4448D9C8A9; Mon, 20 Apr 2020 08:19:51 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="hFew02dc"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id EB6759C8A9; Mon, 20 Apr 2020 08:19:47 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-vs1-f41.google.com (mail-vs1-f41.google.com [209.85.217.41]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E0EDE9C76B for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2020 08:19:45 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-vs1-f41.google.com with SMTP id 184so4814052vsu.3 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 2020 15:19:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=PGR3lIbuGpMjAaCi+MbosMdiJvoeEr9zdDsQIzBMUzo=; b=hFew02dcUF+f/k6GoRIpOFLe1e4ePyAAnvxc93WywF1XYVf/CxBramryq39q9D3sK8 R+8oBVl6+n+FJfRnpNKh/JoOwLDCDtdmxCLBl3iMEfPvJaJvYwhhu/IhbK2HF9w+v8mO LO8hwJhDp3ey6i19Mu5CoC6Q3wz3nrYwweSXSR6HcMyAED/dGz+SelnUlTLEU8dRZkT3 EmpcVVyliTD8+VG6H1G5cnRoXfyP2dDRFrYEfGDFFxYRbz5g3w6OuKLeoi8KOcn5lGvX p3mmLgbtCLJq2G678mBtIxACFan4P2hEy9RHlybvb/k0tLGMUZSgg/6tIjnzhUc/Y39i U0lw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=PGR3lIbuGpMjAaCi+MbosMdiJvoeEr9zdDsQIzBMUzo=; b=qVl60Vw+1O3xy2LtzcHzdtdqyXHIdXyLogTqqcyZMZ7s81FOjSMzKFwlRX9OpoAeCe gHHtxfzOPkyubh6SsoOuIDzFdaKtCiXbc8G9P/zpohmx1R6rxmmvzVT0kKrXd6JoZh04 9BKW+wSC0iz8JTDlY1M705JfXnw3AhMEhc4v4vjgYAgbd1omp7R87RPzqZfGEqJDubUu u35RFqLrgqTGxM2VDdpyoMGS8Zo2xLh/IVasWcAU3BYPXLo98mmUgLN09SUUhX9PU4iN jjBvbP/uklvIlmTfHOCxWSjoVBwkcU13G/Ibwu7R4c+EZoolWcCUkCcRf5vaDmfCi/ul bl9g== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuYid1vc7+vRwY/0eT7KkpX7SGCPnDPYVkqmyOuLxTOcoC3k1ioC WVSRKcLKHQBEG8PUQ2kyzSbi7SszOWYM+P/GHsk7vA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypJ3cMrpK4yY+s5fJlKcOOhZm3Ozx0XG/JQRqzVtPoocoRfXXhZlBJpfV3Spf+vZJKw3wXUefE7oq+t0jDXGR94= X-Received: by 2002:a67:eed0:: with SMTP id o16mr9095922vsp.170.1587334784874; Sun, 19 Apr 2020 15:19:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200419143534.D96C94422F@lignose.oclsc.org> In-Reply-To: From: Rob Pike Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 08:19:33 +1000 Message-ID: To: Daniel Camoles Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [TUHS] Plan 9 from outer space ? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Eunuchs Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Rio is a reference to a different movie, not to Brazil. Brazil is a reference to Brazil. Hope that helps. -rob On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 2:07 AM Daniel Camoles wrote: > > I=E2=80=99m surprised no one mentioned the Brazil movie so far, and rio n= amed from that. I seem to remember that before being called Plan 9 it was c= alled Brazil because of the movie. Did I dream that? > > > Em 19 de abr de 2020, =C3=A0(s) 11:37, Norman Wilson = escreveu: > > > > =EF=BB=BFI asked a friend who was around at the time (I think he and > > Rob worked together at times). Here's what he recalls: > > > > I'll keep it going. rc was a description that it was the worst movie > > ever. And was for many years listed as the worst system ever (except > > for all the others) in a mish-mash of creative naming... I have no cl= ue > > if this is true, and I'm honestly having trouble recalling his name. > > It wasn't my intention. > > > > There was a description that it was a startup script from very early > > times in Unix, shortened, as Ken was wont to do, from runcom, the near= est > > thing CTSS had to a shell--it could run up to six prespecified command= s > > in background. It wasn't a 'big name' like Evi, but I don't know if I= buy > > it, that plan 9 from outer space poster hanging. Plan 9 from Bell Lab= s > > as all these themes flowed together in a mish-mash of creative naming.= .. > > With a different name, it could be the lack of information, those who > > guess at reasons for naming generate volumes of apocrypha. > > > > The real reason is usually, ``because''.* Trust me, there are even > > worse movies... Someone posted some pictures of the names tell you > > anything helpful. Despite the lack of televised sports getting to me > > in these shelter-in-place days, but, I mean, sure, I guess I'll throw > > in some bucks for a pay-per-view of a Pike/Thompson cage match. FIGHT= ! > > Followups set. > > > > Things are named usually because the name is "Plan 9 from outer space > > poster hanging. None of the office area at Murray Hill to this list. > > Plan 9 is the worst system ever (except for all the others) in a > > knod to Churchill (supposedly based on his comment about Democracy). > > And from there it was 25 years ago and beer was involved). It makes > > a great story, but I don't think there's much doubt about it. And was > > for many years listed as the worst movie ever, including the formative > > years of plan 9. Yes, but is there anything besides the name? There = is > > a widespred anecdote that "Plan 9" name comes from the movie until the > > end (what a pain!). > > > > _-_-_-_-Mark > > > > Norman Wilson > > Toronto ON >