From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 25518 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2020 21:59:11 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 11 Jul 2020 21:59:11 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 2E81D94ED7; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 07:59:03 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63D6B94EB8; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 07:58:18 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="d6IzDcWY"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 05F2B94EB8; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 07:58:15 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ua1-f48.google.com (mail-ua1-f48.google.com [209.85.222.48]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9165A94585; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 07:58:13 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ua1-f48.google.com with SMTP id l12so2905686uak.7; Sat, 11 Jul 2020 14:58:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=7Pn6qS8jGXbF4VOZij/UsadpYepWCVvFkzpfanbrDdM=; b=d6IzDcWYObuZIPBuhkR+adlmWOan8HlgfIdqiwZGM4T2xU7EgBNxrz64GmjvcRiVZG wZmZ8CABQxaA0DEumrTO7YBmPcar2N4lzu5m+oCvjybCzoVMgLmdVavX+9gkV5W+ux7g YjyLTe1fhF5mGLd2KDgsB/+P2PltE6ukhfYqi8ge5w7P2C9cGdSW36zPxN9GS0acUGvD fOQGkylkPBg5BRIQRO1hNoZaXzbOwhgVP4eHj0J6aDYJpUva0ptk1HYJS2X4YC/SQap0 NxukbYztnlYC2rbRNgwg4qwRZWALDNQ1oKpjv3o00+asusCwWvVdVpna+/wllnAkGZa8 acIA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=7Pn6qS8jGXbF4VOZij/UsadpYepWCVvFkzpfanbrDdM=; b=IBjCB62NRsEanFJrnJyJcUv8k2MAdfhcxVMWfj0wcHyVRQ6ybQeqLyH1oLJzjtUL20 wV38ne5Fenr6xFC/3tV5biziR7SjUrDuYtlzWuocgm7sw2Q+seejr1l+Sayd/C1zqwtK FVNF0AUajhJnC0WwYWVImwludVy92Xq1rtFHcHlziCF85kwwZ4nQ1BucOCzm19TmzePb kw+DhtWnaajFUdhE6iWNcHNvzm0Sb58K6vX9a8k/1T9Lhfw3JY6b8pMSylvh33EmxHF4 4RDI23dpDumFml40OTCQ1PrXT9tGZJCcIUpfypZmRpvEOWq5NP9OBzFYltg7Iy1wb/Pc FpTA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530QnlR+4g0jLz3pLGmbLyDShhLicAqiVFHTjRvaFPD7yp9YjX7j y2H4BaJnOv8Afr3cU8gaRoyYczfvPO1zh6/kXg6ZtzN8 X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyBVwicarGzYU2j0QHuBaBiSj9faxPUcmnwiN7qEi6ykjcYn2eOObtx0BfVKuEqKKJTKvNrVequmI6hPgXkiMQ= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:44e5:: with SMTP id n92mr15274948uan.121.1594504692372; Sat, 11 Jul 2020 14:58:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200711203020.GA1884@minnie.tuhs.org> In-Reply-To: <20200711203020.GA1884@minnie.tuhs.org> From: Rob Pike Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2020 07:58:01 +1000 Message-ID: To: Warren Toomey Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c8182105aa318dc5" Subject: Re: [TUHS] AT&T Research X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000c8182105aa318dc5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" The interactions were great. Research at least was a multidisciplinary utopia, in my experience. People knew what was going on in other departments, talks were open to anyone who wanted to attend, and doors were always open. During my time there, I worked or at least had substantive conversations with mathematicians, physicists, statisticians, astronomers, acoustics researchers, and many others. Various eople in 1127 had longer-term collaborations with essentially every other group in Murray Hill at one time or another. It was an environment of sharing progress, ideas, and advancements. Not everyone played with the rest, and we didn't do as much work with development was management asked, but that world was very special. I miss it every day. But to answer your question: Yes, there were many pranks by many pranksters, but the water tower was undoubtedly the most visible. -rob On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 6:32 AM Warren Toomey wrote: > On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 11:36:35AM -0400, Clem Cole wrote: > > https://spinroot.com/pico/watertower.jpg > > So there's a question. Obviously all the anecdotes I've heard about > Bell Labs have come from Unix people. But there were many others > working and researching there. > > How was the interaction between the Unix people and the non-Unix people > at the Labs? Especially when Unix became "big"? Did the non-Unix people > also pull pranks like the watertower? > > Cheers, Warren > --000000000000c8182105aa318dc5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The interactions were great. Research at least was a multi= disciplinary utopia, in my experience. People knew what was going on in oth= er departments, talks were open to anyone who wanted to attend, and doors w= ere always open. During my time there, I worked or at least had substantive= conversations with mathematicians, physicists, statisticians, astronomers,= acoustics researchers, and many others. Various eople in 1127 had longer-t= erm collaborations with essentially every other group in Murray Hill at one= time or another.

It was an environment of sharing progr= ess, ideas, and advancements.

Not everyone played wi= th the rest, and we didn't do as much work with development was managem= ent asked, but that world was very special. I miss it every day.
=
But to answer your question: Yes, there were many pranks by= =C2=A0many pranksters, but the water tower was undoubtedly the most visible= .

-rob


On Sun, Jul 1= 2, 2020 at 6:32 AM Warren Toomey <wkt@tu= hs.org> wrote:
On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 11:36:35AM -0400, Clem Cole wrote:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://spinroot.com/pico/watertower.jpg<= /a>

So there's a question. Obviously all the anecdotes I've heard about=
Bell Labs have come from Unix people. But there were many others
working and researching there.

How was the interaction between the Unix people and the non-Unix people
at the Labs? Especially when Unix became "big"? Did the non-Unix = people
also pull pranks like the watertower?

Cheers, Warren
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