From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 23732 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2023 01:33:34 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 23 Jan 2023 01:33:34 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E642A425B4; Mon, 23 Jan 2023 11:33:28 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-vk1-f180.google.com (mail-vk1-f180.google.com [209.85.221.180]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 411FD425B2 for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2023 11:33:22 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-vk1-f180.google.com with SMTP id w72so5279333vkw.7 for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2023 17:33:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=+brQEALegc8n3CgM16zKfb9VSCZkgUUkY0qv2STeC7w=; b=bo09udKhIKFrBXj/Cvo7VODFolsSOw5uX2/uNkBVWYwFjz8v344GhihRbMNv8FYPWf 9hWGYef/Qoc1Cv0v4SFBmpfPoOXzml0ht6E2rtcfqBwLNohyW6EUPUjewNW8Ux6njoJl C1ATpQtyagCkbktHdFZ0tIguME6TeNE/onWnpJVD825CZ4Xi3+ntLLilTvJvpSnZN733 j51eBKWi16eW0nkBQF1BY+MJu2u4QUf5tujX7PfXjeKF4fk7W6pnKICjBYC/xJVz9b2K E9Osmo5H0/G9RXwlQdYsTf3yQaOhjt4yaPP1KcR68OWryTsdOPUrSxgSwRcWELGJ1wd9 iCLA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=+brQEALegc8n3CgM16zKfb9VSCZkgUUkY0qv2STeC7w=; b=3vHpNluTvgMo4s9F+49tcT/fmliU9xPzIirmuKr1x8vF8V2Nc63w9/o6rk7gAgWHd/ JCsWIHfgMSkfkzmXu6uf1/E4GHarzYbqIGOeNaMEGmR+UDKFE4hrSmWXZvGgj2J9U4y9 HrXZqaXLk8zsREIQn15oA8tGVED+MAl0JMXDvcZNld2xXv5uYTOD//QszFfGQqKBqI4t JaAUg+6LN1dAWhDq4sDsrnRSrIQrmiIezom1H7FB5g1oQM+Swc17RW82zPTsEe9+8NAr p8dp7snoiQaf/a0oEqp3eoorJJaDiX3b5PQahm0J3Y63R83mE25Z3ft1BAEJQeQhbxKb 83BQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AFqh2kqlRBXBdkDkn49Jwucg7wAStpmSZZJ7RoBFaF0IxbCTV8l2WfOf 3tPy6V8xBPjXflwL1vIhfyKdrnwzCeafsKidA4Y= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMrXdXuVKA+Q15TZdsP6sYwsG53wEFN+5nzeykh+xa603XRUa+EUCZLRRcNSAy4ZsWQVHBj4CYjk/FOYTpUUR8rM0cA= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6122:11b2:b0:3e2:c1e:a32b with SMTP id y18-20020a05612211b200b003e20c1ea32bmr1125004vkn.9.1674437541202; Sun, 22 Jan 2023 17:32:21 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <28A20AFF-8679-4D4F-A8CD-68965351E397@iitbombay.org> In-Reply-To: From: Rob Pike Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2023 12:32:10 +1100 Message-ID: To: Bakul Shah Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000d7933605f2e45e44" Message-ID-Hash: RIRTCTTV7YMXWX7NK7V5PKZE6ER77XY6 X-Message-ID-Hash: RIRTCTTV7YMXWX7NK7V5PKZE6ER77XY6 X-MailFrom: robpike@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: interesting case of not getting the point: dc on a mac List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000d7933605f2e45e44 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Pretty much everything in the dc man page on my mac raises my hackles. Not limited to changing behavior when you're on a TTY. (Also: NO ONE HAS BEEN ON A TTY FOR DECADES!) I am such an old grump. -rob On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 11:41 AM Bakul Shah wrote: > Probably because MacOS moved things around or is intent on breaking things? > I didn't investigate. It compiles fine on FreeBSD. > > On Jan 22, 2023, at 4:20 PM, ron minnich wrote: > > How do you write a dc that doesn't compile? > > The mind reels. > > On Sun, Jan 22, 2023, 7:16 PM Bakul Shah wrote: > >> dc -V on MacOS shows 4.0.2. Repo link in the output of dc -V. >> The current version is 6.2.2 but it doesn't compile on Ventura. >> >> > On Jan 22, 2023, at 3:39 PM, ron minnich wrote: >> > >> > dc >> > >>> >> > >> > it prompts with '>>> ' >> > >> > wonder where that came from? First time I've seen it. >> > >> > Seems to have a certain lack of understanding attached to it. >> >> > --000000000000d7933605f2e45e44 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Pretty much everything in the dc man page on my mac raises my hac= kles. Not limited to changing behavior when you're on a TTY. (Also: NO = ONE HAS BEEN ON A TTY FOR DECADES!)

I am such an old grump.

-rob

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= On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 11:41 AM Bakul Shah <bakul@iitbombay.org> wrote:
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-l= eft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
Probably because MacO= S moved things around or is intent on breaking things?
I didn'= t investigate. It compiles fine on FreeBSD.

On Jan 22, 2023, at 4:20 PM, ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com>= wrote:

How do you write a dc that doesn= 9;t compile?

The mind reels.

On Sun, Jan 22, 2023, 7:16 PM Bakul Shah <bakul@iitbombay.org> wrote:
=
dc -V on MacOS shows 4.0.= 2. Repo link in the output of dc -V.
The current version is 6.2.2 but it doesn't compile on Ventura.

> On Jan 22, 2023, at 3:39 PM, ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com>= ; wrote:
>
> dc
> >>>
>
> it prompts with '>>> '
>
> wonder where that came from? First time I've seen it.
>
> Seems to have a certain lack of understanding attached to it.


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