From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 12811 invoked from network); 9 Aug 2022 21:27:19 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 9 Aug 2022 21:27:19 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFF8440E3C; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 07:27:13 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-vk1-f181.google.com (mail-vk1-f181.google.com [209.85.221.181]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0920A40E29 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 07:27:11 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-vk1-f181.google.com with SMTP id x128so3492625vke.3 for ; Tue, 09 Aug 2022 14:27:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc; bh=w8YGL0JFwUUMfeQ0OfivXthJHvwC89Pl/oSxKRqCnCo=; b=OcGm/JbOG9EHtMGt48RwBXzvXaDiBGD3Qt6TDvnW1CrWP93arh+ZbvrzRDpErX/lRD 6w49hWGw18Y+j1ocNp8cdIXmHrj3DkiiC+cPgsAalIgotr/4bM++lERV4pd7O8yCapIc weoUdLPJ6eujyocaKs03ZDXmtjd6jaHAoIR47CpogRAYlY4t9qNtC0vqquTs76mUiXN8 wAsuTK5M8G4pB43m0NWHJYvBFjIQFAZeNaOwc4pD3eB2/YeJzBIkrEfXijZVbcljMtsy mB4mzlGbsk0GNWIOYqzTVVLg8gfNm0PkUSyMqhQqk89ZtmOB1ILFtjTKSmZnrYCG/dxJ nkBA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc; bh=w8YGL0JFwUUMfeQ0OfivXthJHvwC89Pl/oSxKRqCnCo=; b=Vhn5yUO47+7q17OojyKfxOTeIXWkkd3LgZoSdG9tDX2Khctwaxz2WCUPOZhW/n/3V+ zxp09nHmyUPflG4obYDKH3FYfshysz6KlIFvmbfVCtH++nMRumFnuainkZPgA2xNeYAb ZV7U2t4dihOxUvayCXs9I/gWejzLWSxSOUIvA/NcbsVUUt9rv/O5knepnaRvHRR3QuG4 759R5llTfMuf+LrAojbhWGCoR3dTQ7KTP3FlK8yygCQoEDX/11puQXjFG8GC+skXwU/4 KM2zphupGtmzCZb+Qug0gFFoMj+EP85nudbHxuhWjlz4im6IEQXqe5eoG0nGJWxT6Utw Q3Kg== X-Gm-Message-State: ACgBeo1HcTrysSwrUWzRAXntIZoe+H2NQoPdasRmarpwXiM5JaLwEW7E hu88qBFAcAwP6S4Iqxot0yroD9ZPuNom2szw5IbYFCWT X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA6agR7B/ckn6WxywqsJW7HoT03WzdeQNTJsJzgEiEddrRgT6JKjkfzJQECXKybD/Qvo6KDodmgLmfRsH1VPU24Ixns= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6122:1186:b0:375:9752:79d9 with SMTP id x6-20020a056122118600b00375975279d9mr8169218vkn.34.1660080370004; Tue, 09 Aug 2022 14:26:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1oF87S-4zW-00@marmaro.de> <8NgHeeJiYEBE0zhtd9RdKIeYWcAwtxsnAj7YhVIvLpz-yt0__LeFvVzNNGgSNTeDGnVQy-qxkoHWvmRi84ybYyNAiMRDJuVoAaEG96UAu4s=@protonmail.com> <20220724190253.GA23421@tau1.ceti.pl> <20220728003014.GB6195@tau1.ceti.pl> <202207280103.26S13ZL5059300@ultimate.com> <1E44D7CE-CC4D-4F86-97CC-208E3972A785@msweng.com> <20220729050748.GB12246@tau1.ceti.pl> <1815F4B8-D6B4-4C71-AC05-27D88C1E580D@humeweb.com> In-Reply-To: <1815F4B8-D6B4-4C71-AC05-27D88C1E580D@humeweb.com> From: Rob Pike Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 07:25:58 +1000 Message-ID: To: Andrew Hume Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c0b78c05e5d59466" Message-ID-Hash: HF7KA3ZXM3GTY52OPOVLDS6KWJFQQ5WZ X-Message-ID-Hash: HF7KA3ZXM3GTY52OPOVLDS6KWJFQQ5WZ X-MailFrom: robpike@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: SNOBOL and RATSNO List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000c0b78c05e5d59466 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I think both factors were relevant, as well as the preciousness and pace of it all, as discussed by others here. -rob On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 1:15 AM Andrew Hume wrote: > rob, clem: > > has there been a shift in ability? or is this more likely a sampling bias > (because there were so many fewer programmers then)? > > > On Aug 9, 2022, at 6:34 AM, Clem Cole wrote: > > > > On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 2:12 AM Rob Pike wrote: > >> >> I still marvel at the productivity and precision of his generation of >> programmers. >> > Amen. > > > --000000000000c0b78c05e5d59466 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I think both factors were relevant, as well as the preciousness a= nd pace of it all, as discussed by others here.

-rob


On Wed, Aug 1= 0, 2022 at 1:15 AM Andrew Hume <an= drew@humeweb.com> wrote:
rob, clem:
has there been a = shift in ability? or is this more likely a sampling bias
(because= there were so many fewer programmers then)?


On Aug 9, 2022, at 6:34 AM, Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com> wrote:


On Tue, Aug 9, 2= 022 at 2:12 AM Rob Pike <robpike@gmail.com> wrote:

I still marvel= at the productivity and precision of his generation of programmers.
<= /div>
Amen.

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