From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 14762 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2022 00:15:42 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 12 Jan 2022 00:15:42 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 945899D00D; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 10:15:40 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 125EC9CFC9; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 10:15:29 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="pTloFcCU"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 6C80D9CFC9; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 10:15:27 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-pl1-f181.google.com (mail-pl1-f181.google.com [209.85.214.181]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 037639C78F for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 10:15:27 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-pl1-f181.google.com with SMTP id c3so1420705pls.5 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 16:15:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Rmhiebxyo14QWXtdgBdPrzono2ReWeNe5EuqcCh9O6Q=; b=pTloFcCUa/rRli8FBblu9qoOExIBDq7sLGF+2JZTj/daWz46CQ6BipZ8xFM4z+VCj+ SHcWtrMuOOeUZp+WvrPqKwSrdmU8nQ4mULj6F7VTh48wtDR7yLH3/WyaJvrhcTDhp6dh ASoPcUUfgVKRN/AoMSQil2RjqCYi6Ptvww25SFsDAClJO/prppa0yhMN9KD7lb/k2hlR 96NBJTH4UWKIXKJC2CciQMn1a3qcPR3fjP8PjBM2tH9ZSgd8729Iv4hvouRvRcjepHSi jif62cg/DAeJ10r//Dq4i9frYtU9Uoz7mnPX3wsbLUwHtEAD0bFEYyh9Yvl/kQR2+sGM TTNA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Rmhiebxyo14QWXtdgBdPrzono2ReWeNe5EuqcCh9O6Q=; b=b1sNlvrV1t7gO4rQCSwq5Cf0DGM6DjsqhmxJn1Z3qxlbMTzNMQRUGikr92/FMz4y2V knEULP8vPAceqXL/Chia0GYK/7rH7g/uVsIa8Y7upN2JsC+Lkwp1akzKTsbSMRqHgBIx AteVWlH+xFR82zV/M58dC1I2hoDCZdnw9KAEyqNk4F9Ro/i4LlgbQeaWw/11kB1tJ1EN wYXbgCguyzxHFEVtHDL+S9UgG4+gc4m2htPJPCcpzolVxPGcPbdQfxZXnFYxWh1zjUop f6/ytMEw120sGNGgEfYxdyK9qfoTWMxOFFK71OTNkBaGqXeoum4xYw6UuVeqq114h0aQ d2NA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530jWOzZuHh+Y558Yq1JrDQS70/OiR60RREkLqQ2/rMgs3NqP79j x20zFzwH3V9Naw1gAmSHaso5wbUAdncJvpT5jxmST7DV X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxhskvEKmQnwJ5TXN7MTbz14mrB8SoIGICfQqJUeSHqFoymN/ROtZU82vphS4t1XuDTeGIVO+6Dg4RPbH5Leao= X-Received: by 2002:a63:92:: with SMTP id 140mr6168996pga.255.1641946526351; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 16:15:26 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Rob Pike Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 11:15:15 +1100 Message-ID: To: Andrew Hume Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000071875905d557776c" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Coastal cultures, collaboration, creativity and Sun vs DEC. X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --00000000000071875905d557776c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, but most, if not all of things were after I arrived, among the first of a brace of fresh hot blood imported to grow 127. Things definitely felt looser by the mid-80s. Look, I'm not complaining. I absolutely loved working in the CS research group. But culturally, at least upon my arrival, I felt like a fish out of water. -rob On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 9:42 AM Andrew Hume wrote: > i would add the general atmosphere of the Unix room, especially the very > heavy mobile hung from > the ceiling for a while (until someone noticed the cable supporting it wa= s > visibly stretching). > > also the bowling alley (the corridor that rob, ken, denis, doug and my > offices were on) =E2=80=94 the pins > were under the printer table at the end. i also recall the time the > bowling ball got away from the > Unix room rolling down the main corridor towards a group of visitors led > by peter weinberger. > luckily, dave presotto grabbed the ball before anyone got hurt (but it wa= s > close). > > i would also mention labscam; its not often we see a prank involving rob > pike, Penn and a Noble Prize winner. > > On Jan 11, 2022, at 2:17 PM, John P. Linderman wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 3:45 PM Rob Pike wrote: > > Similar. Everyone at Bell Labs was so *proper*. (Except Ken, of course. >> Ken is *sui generis*, and a Californian). >> > > Perhaps (probably maybe) I misunderstand. There was nothing "proper" abou= t > the Peter face on the water tower, or lock-picking a boot to move it to a > patrol car, of Scott Knaur wandering the halls in a Darth Vader costume, = or > Jellicat wearing a Cats costume, or a thousand other examples. There was = a > lot of playfulness in the Labs (at least in the early days), and I think = it > was wonderful. > > > --00000000000071875905d557776c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes, but most, if not all of things were after I arrived, = among the first of a brace of fresh hot blood imported to grow 127. Things = definitely felt looser by the mid-80s.

Look, I'm not= complaining. I absolutely loved working in the CS research group. But cult= urally, at least upon my arrival, I felt like a fish out of water.
=
-rob


On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 9:42 = AM Andrew Hume <andrew@humeweb.com= > wrote:
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i would add the general atmospher= e of the Unix room, especially the very heavy mobile hung from
the ceil= ing for a while (until someone noticed the cable supporting it was visibly = stretching).

also the bowling alley (the corridor = that rob, ken, denis, doug and my offices were on) =E2=80=94 the pins
=
were under the printer table at the end. i also recall the time the bo= wling ball got away from the
Unix room rolling down the main corr= idor towards a group of visitors led by peter weinberger.
luckily= , dave presotto grabbed the ball before anyone got hurt (but it was close).=

i would also mention labscam; its not often we se= e a prank involving rob pike, Penn and a Noble Prize winner.

On Jan 11, 2022, at 2:17 PM, John P. Linderman= <jpl.jpl@gmail.c= om> wrote:



On Tue, Jan 11, 202= 2 at 3:45 PM Rob Pike <robpike@gmail.com> wrote:

Similar. Everyone at Bell Labs was so proper.=C2=A0 (Ex= cept Ken, of course. Ken is sui generis, and a Californian).

Perhaps (probably maybe) I misunderstand. There was nothing "pro= per" about the Peter face on the water tower, or lock-picking a boot t= o move it to a patrol car, of Scott Knaur wandering the halls in a Darth Va= der costume, or Jellicat=C2=A0wearing a Cats costume, or a thousand other e= xamples. There was a lot of playfulness in the Labs (at least in the early = days), and I think it was wonderful.=C2=A0

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