From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 18349 invoked from network); 13 Sep 2022 02:00:01 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 13 Sep 2022 02:00:01 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3525041740; Tue, 13 Sep 2022 11:59:57 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-vs1-f42.google.com (mail-vs1-f42.google.com [209.85.217.42]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 33AB941721 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2022 11:59:50 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-vs1-f42.google.com with SMTP id m65so10922223vsc.1 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2022 18:59:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date; bh=C4tP2fNxPHLLdcUQTzFleag0+j9RT/lhw+AXU6fHswc=; b=bYJTs+HSevu6/fderGzYppkXheaJFcAjpYhX+1NuI6PBrXej88HvHbFGYHgRV7+K9R /j1ST/d+aprD/NgnDbzCcYNKl69ncVEPGDFn+oSzsWYIb8/hXr9NF0QZi4XCbVsDWAKV fcH+mhh43k3oCiuRcbfeWD3FnHdWv9hUq6OcfM6NRmpwmLYt/5dSXsuX1yBoKdRMp12Y 5RDffUEJENzSmx6pEHsQKfZKGtqXm3fPP5hDgqGvcaf3N+Nu82Ekd+smUeuCFCsxgf/5 4hElFZrtFmqplzs7Qg7D1XSwf+UHWCLQKBd4jpgrIozBH08Bl7e+qGOHnEE0eZk47Sfq B+lg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date; bh=C4tP2fNxPHLLdcUQTzFleag0+j9RT/lhw+AXU6fHswc=; b=5YYJdAuljYTJyR3cfzwLrPWPrj9cT+47ZVif2jqc5RyfBu9aP9uUL615Dg4Nn0gQg5 VTz0lfwRQvVBru+Fu3DXhx5Zqwpeit+bDYC7QW872w/Tkos/+wexbdLzLl5eZL3g9sv0 SSAFaHTcvQ6cEqp0bD6SNdV2Nx8Id4Az0daMvoPjWjEuUOMn6XzrrUJrzFq3d87+95mS Lh4MrJY3+zc0yf8zWb9YBMwHLeO2zv6cKXwk4faU3TuF3ORR5ZISSELTN92YFOC/eQYX mQCFhQ+aqWmj2hwSKX2v5e8QK9hv1i3/uAWQA1R7KhEKWmZU4C7bMo43ELu0TTx3hxk3 pP7g== X-Gm-Message-State: ACgBeo3qEE2nMYs+w4zD4/vAVI8Y5zodAwr1QjJaGT/4PUUe/SEC4YFm uFQyYHXVb23uqzpm3molA+zwdh/NIPP7Q1ua+KY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA6agR5gaqVR2KnGL9Uno3trI8Mz/LaQFsQD5UaOLKUuG0wBLtpkmo5CyjARM/CHN9lNd7c5bXoggIrO+8wO2eSSZyU= X-Received: by 2002:a67:6743:0:b0:398:1e84:d336 with SMTP id b64-20020a676743000000b003981e84d336mr8987805vsc.83.1663034328808; Mon, 12 Sep 2022 18:58:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <477dbaa9-d433-471d-a1b9-045ffded634e@www.fastmail.com> <20220913015316.GM9175@mcvoy.com> In-Reply-To: <20220913015316.GM9175@mcvoy.com> From: Rob Pike Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2022 11:58:38 +1000 Message-ID: To: Larry McVoy Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000006b01c305e8855ad7" Message-ID-Hash: JZWUU2SDOA3DU6ADZDF44Q5574K4NA4N X-Message-ID-Hash: JZWUU2SDOA3DU6ADZDF44Q5574K4NA4N X-MailFrom: robpike@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: TUHS main list X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: DMD 5620 simulator List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --0000000000006b01c305e8855ad7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Some time ago, Greg Christie, then at Apple, booted up a 3B2 with a 5620 attached and invited me to play with it. Now _that_ was a trip down memory lane. (The 3B2, maybe not so much.) It was a reward for an interview with him, recorded on video, about the early days of 2d graphics as I saw them, for a course for employees. But being Apple, even though it was 0% proprietary, it will never see the light of day. -rob On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 11:53 AM Larry McVoy wrote: > This looks like some really nice work. I used a BLIT at UW Madison > and loved it, it was way more useful than a terminal and way less > fuss than a full blown windowing system. Felt like the knee of the > curve. All of that over a serial line, that's impressive. > > I dunno, but I bet that Rob trys it out just for a trip down memory > lane. > > On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 04:25:50PM -0700, Seth Morabito wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > I've recently been improving the AT&T/Teletype DMD 5620 simulator I > wrote a few years ago. It can now run either the 8;7;3 or 8;7;5 firmware. > It also now supports executing a local shell or connecting directly to a > physical or virtual tty device. It runs natively on Linux or macOS with X11 > or Wayland, but I would love help creating a Windows version if you're a > Windows programmer (I am an occasional Windows user, but I am not at all > knowledgeable about Windows programming). > > > > Full details are available here: > https://loomcom.com/3b2/dmd5620_emulator.html > > > > The source code is here: https://github.com/sethm/dmd_gtk > > > > Many thanks go to my friend Sark (@crtdude on Twitter) for tracking down > the 8;7;3 firmware and dumping it for me. I'd also like to thank Mike > Haertel for helping find bugs, providing feedback, and inspiring me to get > it working with Research Unix in addition to SVR3. > > > > Feedback, bug reports, and pull requests are all welcome! > > > > -Seth > > -- > > Seth Morabito > > Poulsbo, WA > > web@loomcom.com > > -- > --- > Larry McVoy Retired to fishing > http://www.mcvoy.com/lm/boat > --0000000000006b01c305e8855ad7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Some time ago, Greg Christie, then at Apple, booted up a 3B2 with= a 5620 attached and invited me to play with it. Now _that_ was a trip down= memory lane. (The 3B2, maybe not so much.)

It was a reward for an intervi= ew with him, recorded on video, about the early days of 2d graphics as I sa= w them, for a course for employees. But being Apple, even though it was 0% = proprietary, it will never see the light of day.

-rob


On Tue, Sep = 13, 2022 at 11:53 AM Larry McVoy <lm@mcv= oy.com> wrote:
This looks like some really nice work.=C2=A0 I used a BLIT at UW Madi= son
and loved it, it was way more useful than a terminal and way less
fuss than a full blown windowing system.=C2=A0 Felt like the knee of the curve.=C2=A0 All of that over a serial line, that's impressive.

I dunno, but I bet that Rob trys it out just for a trip down memory
lane.

On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 04:25:50PM -0700, Seth Morabito wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I've recently been improving the AT&T/Teletype DMD 5620 simula= tor I wrote a few years ago. It can now run either the 8;7;3 or 8;7;5 firmw= are. It also now supports executing a local shell or connecting directly to= a physical or virtual tty device. It runs natively on Linux or macOS with = X11 or Wayland, but I would love help creating a Windows version if you'= ;re a Windows programmer (I am an occasional Windows user, but I am not at = all knowledgeable about Windows programming).
>
> Full details are available here: https://loomcom.c= om/3b2/dmd5620_emulator.html
>
> The source code is here: https://github.com/sethm/dmd_gtk >
> Many thanks go to my friend Sark (@crtdude on Twitter) for tracking do= wn the 8;7;3 firmware and dumping it for me. I'd also like to thank Mik= e Haertel for helping find bugs, providing feedback, and inspiring me to ge= t it working with Research Unix in addition to SVR3.
>
> Feedback, bug reports, and pull requests are all welcome!
>
> -Seth
> --
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0Seth Morabito
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0Poulsbo, WA
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0web@l= oomcom.com

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