From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: (qmail 6450 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2020 21:33:07 -0000 Received-SPF: pass (minnie.tuhs.org: domain of minnie.tuhs.org designates 45.79.103.53 as permitted sender) receiver=inbox.vuxu.org; client-ip=45.79.103.53 envelope-from= Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with UTF8ESMTPZ; 4 Apr 2020 21:33:07 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id A59B59C64C; Sun, 5 Apr 2020 07:33:04 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 610C99C203; Sun, 5 Apr 2020 07:32:39 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="iu14jrv4"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 09E4D9C203; Sun, 5 Apr 2020 07:32:36 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ua1-f45.google.com (mail-ua1-f45.google.com [209.85.222.45]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8D0E99C14A for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2020 07:32:35 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ua1-f45.google.com with SMTP id z7so4085298uai.6 for ; Sat, 04 Apr 2020 14:32:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=MWJ/7QxA9tf7UW1IBhfV7TMLZXpYM3U4UBOqpsa8zPM=; b=iu14jrv40x0JhjcKdPg8okEPbDLJWnG6FVUW1s9ojfJSQS2oAyhDMeZaCQiJokSrdj ACf2l1o1iZwxoU5QzHO/1heI7wX4zV+gT6alWAHfkMF5YPoRom80jxJo41E7XUU39CEW b37XI3mMbRxLQ+OL4UIEIpmOeq//IMb5maJuyrkYga5u+puNRZRolKrSFSo/bqwcXsFt UjO6cKHIeecMo9IPr67JPhwkYGySj3vV6tc1yJksT6aCNjKGlulpI+0w9c1SxUOcT4R6 2i4ZPIcVW8UfnIErSrGE1hYgXonxqNXq9KQOq1EesB9hrpDK4uOjCUju4ik3THbJ3m+b 1uOg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=MWJ/7QxA9tf7UW1IBhfV7TMLZXpYM3U4UBOqpsa8zPM=; b=cTniqc+KxC3Kj2oA1+qKllkXAIM40eGgTT4Qfhq0rFV5SYPYxvs3723+uBrosKu8xv 2EhgL9nEbiEL02COuFAYUMJm2eWGeZm0PuBTer4b7lDP9TaiatWtrKy9pz2sroX+ukK+ QP/HovgyOTkUjV2PMeHmY01fIG3EgBbO9MJ1U/Drd8oNLKrdvEJTsGqS2/A7l6psJpw2 IWERGHS34/6GGESG1kxolBe0vK3pVdrRGKQXzevOKfdUbftLq3oDLqgtf94Y/GExoS/s z5sbIceQhX7TeA3c7xDxuVYa0sFu44Vr5mvHO+2XuUafUrObA0M3Xr3mIJ4tH1UzvFEJ qOgw== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0Pua6IPOBv30hPRkFm84vqIHcWubfyf2EhinjLxUIlYXBm59dzEoM fvlnFszxTOJxHf3le95EkAnVr3d/ymXf5Qj/bOU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypL2059LLrOPqfwYwPGS/EiVsCn0YOOKF9ukfQT7gjKC7spwYfN9TswMwvf8Xv1ilCHKSUjf2j3w3RRHRVhvsog= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:20d6:: with SMTP id z22mr11160062ual.121.1586035954384; Sat, 04 Apr 2020 14:32:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20C3B8BE-E371-4694-8A34-EEC6A5461FAD@planet.nl> <202003291404.02TE4dAI022916@freefriends.org> <2298456D-A786-40C2-9C68-26C99E2002E1@planet.nl> <684e36a8-4ed7-bec2-674b-c9bf3cce04c4@e-bbes.com> In-Reply-To: From: Rob Pike Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2020 07:32:22 +1000 Message-ID: To: Noel Hunt Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [TUHS] 8th Edition timeline X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Sam wasn't nee jim. Jim was a toy, sam is a serious editor. My notebooks are hundreds of pages of figuring stuff out. Perhaps valuable information to historians, but not easily compressed for this forum. -rob On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 5:57 AM Noel Hunt wrote: > > I would be interested too. That was a seminal time with the > proliferation of graphical programs, such as jim, pads/pi, > proof, the sophisticated menus of 'mhit.c' etc. It is curious > that little if any of that code made the transition to Plan9 > (apart from sam, nee jim). > > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 12:19 AM emanuel stiebler wrote: >> >> On 2020-03-30 05:06, Rob Pike wrote: >> > I've looked through my notes and unfortunately there's very little >> > about this as the notes are mostly about graphics and physics. >> >> I wouldn't mind seeing the note baout graphics, even if not on topic for >> this group ...