From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id aa303f06 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2020 05:15:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id E41FB9BCC2; Wed, 8 Jan 2020 15:15:06 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED1D9BCA9; Wed, 8 Jan 2020 15:14:33 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="cq5JKlxr"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 2A2A59BCA9; Wed, 8 Jan 2020 15:14:30 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-yb1-f181.google.com (mail-yb1-f181.google.com [209.85.219.181]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 79FD3945FC for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2020 15:14:29 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-yb1-f181.google.com with SMTP id a2so1020097ybr.7 for ; Tue, 07 Jan 2020 21:14:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3mLHMRNu98HpH4DwuQqA3G7tzv3SQXPO3GkABL0HnXI=; b=cq5JKlxrnSh5DehVmfoa+pub90gP2oFvxjL6QZJsNQmMhrEHOkrF5i8X+yogeZwSPZ XWSSnziN1xgNWbNmnI8Nplql4keWBuTteEHLwYXFXNnPws6XFj/9hDRNtNUUWWdZeHVB SWaFwKmpfvO1WwHlz0sxL+m4L2LKrfEwIVygPE9ZvSQhCM+QVeugjf9+Ito5GQN0ZLrb zfBTR6BP1+OZUiBEw091le1IFBtYd1lBYRXmTfhV7YmubEEErzJjKXzNFlQCKgW9B56x boG+PYlJ5/NHOkNhPojReGIljjV2hyihfeW8QG2/hL91lFyqCV6i7zh9ZQnLq7OY+kMY 5MZA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3mLHMRNu98HpH4DwuQqA3G7tzv3SQXPO3GkABL0HnXI=; b=UwvyHCPbC/lLKyL7lHNcr0awuol7hF7VK4snZYoC27YOdDmbT9Oz99V1/FnDmqyTUF ACDWrm+a8OgpA8v7PmvxxXDtcevo6ViYhrNosqpITfgCEfxf5HzkVQWp4a+kyPeeBI5i up9dxiQe+7O0HWek1Lvz0AblqvPHnFbJWKoEQdm3nwHbB6ijvV+TOAK04FDSYUZ31GVw dOsbtDNyDJymxiWMokhR9LSEPzPpJAH6ex6l23/vePfeZWUVWPGF5OXmo38eiZqrJyB9 GAfiphcbqGWCKoh7KWUfh+3ukS+yRyRXUzFqDGKUH98LuZm6EbWgTZ38MfZCM6MJFqFD 2+qg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWUU+rH1CJkELvesVwNCuLKGal3I4fNVxT/OXhGKdBNU9jPMuEo H2yQmoH7E00RXdCiGxXoYIliQm8ywzVBUpFFUJc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxbrC8oOfcVl6wd+E0eAlIvntRDWn95I/dqj2JJeOsMG49g4s4doORFLLRMHMsBQ8nzdVEWHj5qbbB6JI+k8zc= X-Received: by 2002:a25:1907:: with SMTP id 7mr2596646ybz.191.1578460468627; Tue, 07 Jan 2020 21:14:28 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <202001070231.0072ViZp123105@tahoe.cs.Dartmouth.EDU> <17372ca2-0498-4320-a933-5ac522eabb2b@localhost> In-Reply-To: From: Mark van Atten Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 06:13:52 +0100 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?Q?Rodrigo_G=2E_L=C3=B3pez?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [TUHS] screen editors X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 20:36, Rodrigo G. L=C3=B3pez = wrote: > > i like to use it natively as much as possible, especially the 9front edit= ion with its usability (e.g. mouse chording) improvements. if that is not p= ossible, i drawterm into some cpu or a local vm where i can get a little en= vironment to work with whatever is at /mnt/term. In the opposite direction of your preference for a native environment: A port of 9front sam (with chording) to unix is available at https://bitbucket.org/iru/sam9f-unix/src/default/ I use it as a drop-in replacement for the plan9port version. > it has given me the best text editing and programming experience i've eve= r had. For most types of editing I have come to prefer it over acme. The one modification I should, perhaps, like to see is the possibility to scroll the window while selecting. Rob Pike has made some comments on the difficulty here; see the quotations and links in the discussion at https://github.com/deadpixi/sam/issues/85 (incidentally, on the github pages of another fairly recent port of sam.) A proposal for a (GSOC) project to improve sam scrolling: http://fqa.9front.org/appendixg.html Mark.