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List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000f0b66c05f35041ab Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Saturday, January 28, 2023, Kevin Bowling wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 1:54 AM wrote: > >> Hi. >> >> I've been using trn for decades to read a very few USENET groups. Until >> recently I've >> been using aioe.org as my NNTP server but it seems to have gone dark. >> Before that >> I used eternal-september.org, but when I try that I now get: >> >> | $ NNTPSERVER=news.eternal-september.org trn >> | Connecting to news.eternal-september.org...Done. >> | >> | Invalid (bogus) newsgroup found: comp.sys.3b1 >> | >> | Invalid (bogus) newsgroup found: comp.sources.bugs >> | >> | Invalid (bogus) newsgroup found: comp.misc >> | >> | Invalid (bogus) newsgroup found: comp.compilers >> | .... >> >> And those all are (or were!) valid groups. If anyone has suggestions for >> a good >> free NNTP server, please let me know. Privately is fine. I'm at a bit of >> a loss otherwise. >> > > I maintain inn and some related ports for FreeBSD. I run a public server > at csiph.com and am happy to provide accounts or peering to interested > parties. Read access is open. > >> >> Great initiative and idea! While I am personally not interested in reading USENET that much nowadays, the concept of providing free, public access to classic Internet services (public USENET, FTP, IRC, finger, etc.) gets all my praise. What happened to free, public services these days? Everything appears to to be subscriber pay-as-you-go based. The commercialization killed the free spirit of Internet we all loved in the 90s. PS> And I also love the layout of your website. Plain HTML with no fancy css, js bloat; classic colors with white background. I miss it on the Internet. These modern color themes with dark backrounds is getting harder and harder to read and is just awful if you ask me. --Andy --000000000000f0b66c05f35041ab Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Saturday, January 28, 2023, Kevin Bowling <kevin.bowling@kev009.com> wrote:


On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 1:54 AM <= arnold@skeeve.com> wrote:
Hi.

I've been using trn for decades to read a very few USENET groups. Until= recently I've
been using aioe.org as my NNTP server but it seems to have gone dark. Before that=
I used eternal-september.org, but when I try that I now get:

| $ NNTPSERVER=3Dnews.eternal-september.org trn
| Connecting to news.eternal-september.org...Done.
|
| Invalid (bogus) newsgroup found: comp.sys.3b1
|
| Invalid (bogus) newsgroup found: comp.sources.bugs
|
| Invalid (bogus) newsgroup found: comp.misc
|
| Invalid (bogus) newsgroup found: comp.compilers
| ....

And those all are (or were!) valid groups. If anyone has suggestions for a = good
free NNTP server, please let me know. Privately is fine.=C2=A0 I'm at a= bit of
a loss otherwise.

I maintain inn a= nd some related ports for FreeBSD.=C2=A0 I run a public server at csiph.com and am happy to provi= de accounts or peering to interested parties.=C2=A0 Read access is open.


Great initiative and idea! While I am personally not interested in r= eading USENET that much nowadays, the concept of providing free, public acc= ess to classic Internet services (public USENET, FTP, IRC, finger, etc.) ge= ts all my praise. What happened to free, public services these days? Everyt= hing appears to to be subscriber pay-as-you-go based. The commercialization= killed the free spirit of Internet we all loved in the 90s.

=
PS> And I also love the layout of your website. Plain HTML wi= th no fancy css, js bloat; classic colors with white background. I miss it = on the Internet. These modern color themes with dark backrounds is getting = harder and harder to read and is just awful if you ask me.

--Andy
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