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From: akosela@andykosela.com (Andy Kosela)
Subject: [TUHS] 80 columns ...
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2017 00:07:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALMnNGg_+50U3HV3t4FOPiUbMzX2ciSGokwtHZ1YGnakvDwOCQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <225f0698-403a-88ff-3056-fca5df83a2db@kilonet.net>

On Wednesday, November 8, 2017, Arthur Krewat <krewat at kilonet.net> wrote:

> I too grew up on DecWriters writing MACRO-10 on TOPS-10 in high school. My
> favorite was the LA120 that I could change the character pitch and get 132
> columns on 8.5" paper when we ran out of the wide stuff.
>
> To this day, 80 columns just doesn't do it for me. I generally comment - a
> LOT - and in C the comments will stretch out past 80 columns easily.
>
> On 11/8/2017 5:17 PM, Grant Taylor via TUHS wrote:
>
>>
>> I do recall 80 column monitors, but I started on 132 column decwriter IIs
>>> and hence have never had sympathy for 80 columns. It's weird that so
>>>
>>
>> Interesting.  I wonder if that's where the 132 column (alternative)
>> standard came from.  I.e. XTerm's "Allow 80/132 Column Switching" option in
>> the VT Options menu.
>>
>
> VT100's had a 132 column mode. I wrote a terminal emulator for the IBM-XT
> circa 1985 to do 132 columns in it's highest-resolution. I couldn't take 80
> columns, even back then ;)
>

For me changing 80 columns and/or 8 character Tab is like trying to change
the value of Pi.  I consider those the holy rules you just don't change.

But I am probably in minority group these days as I still use a lot of old
school 80 columns VT terminals -- vt220 and vt320 are my personal favorites.

--Andy
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Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-08 20:52 ron minnich
2017-11-08 21:02 ` Larry McVoy
2017-11-08 21:19   ` Dan Cross
2017-11-08 21:24     ` Larry McVoy
2017-11-08 21:28       ` Steve Nickolas
2017-11-08 21:48         ` [TUHS] (cassette) tape coming back [was " Charles H Sauer
2017-11-08 22:46           ` Don Hopkins
2017-11-08 23:28         ` [TUHS] " Dave Horsfall
2017-11-08 23:35           ` Ron Natalie
2017-11-08 23:39             ` Dave Horsfall
2017-11-08 21:34       ` Dan Cross
2017-11-08 21:40         ` Dan Cross
2017-11-08 21:40         ` Larry McVoy
2017-11-08 21:43           ` Dan Cross
2017-11-09  1:00             ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-11-08 23:46     ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-11-09  6:52       ` Otto Moerbeek
2017-11-08 21:06 ` Bakul Shah
2017-11-08 21:18   ` Steve Nickolas
2017-11-08 22:17 ` Grant Taylor
2017-11-08 22:30   ` Arthur Krewat
2017-11-08 23:07     ` Andy Kosela [this message]
2017-11-08 23:15       ` Arthur Krewat
2017-11-08 23:15         ` Warner Losh
2017-11-08 23:49           ` Arthur Krewat
2017-11-09  0:04             ` Dave Horsfall
2017-11-08 23:24         ` Andy Kosela
2017-11-09  7:24 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2017-11-09 15:02   ` Don Hopkins
2017-11-09 19:14     ` Ron Natalie
2017-11-10 16:18       ` Nemo
2017-11-10 19:05         ` Jon Steinhart
2017-11-10 20:36           ` Toby Thain
2017-11-10 20:39             ` Larry McVoy
2017-11-10 20:46               ` Warner Losh
2017-11-10 20:59                 ` Larry McVoy
2017-11-11  9:24                 ` David Arnold
2017-11-10 20:43             ` Jon Steinhart
2017-11-10 20:58               ` Larry McVoy
2017-11-10 21:02                 ` Jon Steinhart
2017-11-10 21:09                   ` Larry McVoy
2017-11-10 21:12                     ` Jon Steinhart
2017-11-10 21:34                       ` William Corcoran
2017-11-10 21:50                         ` Jon Steinhart
2017-11-10 22:58                         ` Dave Horsfall
2017-11-10 23:05                           ` Jon Steinhart
2017-11-10 23:52                             ` Toby Thain
2017-11-11  0:24                             ` Larry McVoy
2017-11-11 16:40                   ` Ian Zimmerman
2017-11-11 16:47                     ` Larry McVoy
2017-11-11 17:23                       ` Jon Steinhart
2017-11-11 17:38                         ` Ralph Corderoy
2017-11-10 22:46               ` Toby Thain
2017-11-10 22:59                 ` Jon Steinhart
2017-11-11 14:33                   ` Andy Kosela
2017-11-11 17:19                     ` Jon Steinhart
2017-11-11 17:24                       ` Larry McVoy
2017-11-11 17:25                         ` Jon Steinhart
2017-11-10 23:59           ` Don Hopkins
2017-11-10 22:10         ` Dave Horsfall
2017-11-09 20:46     ` Lars Brinkhoff
2017-11-10 17:21 Norman Wilson
2017-11-10 17:56 ` Larry McVoy
2017-11-11 17:04 ` Ian Zimmerman
2017-11-11 17:30   ` Random832
2017-11-11 18:05     ` Ian Zimmerman

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