From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 27857 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2021 15:46:06 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 29 Mar 2021 15:46:06 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id D16F89C882; Tue, 30 Mar 2021 01:46:02 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CFAA9C82B; Tue, 30 Mar 2021 01:45:54 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="iQjlVjbQ"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 01D9A9C82B; Tue, 30 Mar 2021 01:45:53 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-wm1-f54.google.com (mail-wm1-f54.google.com [209.85.128.54]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0752D9C829 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2021 01:45:52 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-wm1-f54.google.com with SMTP id f22-20020a7bc8d60000b029010c024a1407so8772587wml.2 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 2021 08:45:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=xlT56wldFp8bPnjvaHJp9ZtCwQvPkoiOIyiDLGaQJT8=; b=iQjlVjbQGLHTex2pfIcDqSNfC5bVNC2Tz/kSzLl9dVoxPs+Vbu2qaeEP9AFOUks5js zDVZgFYTvPdfzaI1kF2/Vg51fxgB8RRCLPJo4nPCcNlJDDuCoDnpsCQgB83fABDgRQEK DReMqepIOEKL/xnuzLu9pLwJK8ZX0mk+3k8EWKl5vHPuqXRp5UK+86G7NH8XDFr1TGEz /gBBjhqQFmIUOY9OlzTVGACSQlZbuO3TggdKNPSV/oBKiByUQCTuLZz31Mv8D8poJITs IaOcK9C3YXC5SsrYBYpg0v4rr7r766TKvGMoIqo+l5LpYuEziDlMKwFDeC6ljU0Mw7H2 A8mg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=xlT56wldFp8bPnjvaHJp9ZtCwQvPkoiOIyiDLGaQJT8=; b=CehFywM2Pi9pohqjjQYJ5K/1dETM7hGvWliBXQ4ROZd8YSUBcG7c8btHLLyv2I+h2L tMUTStgfG179NB6GmO4z73AYyNA/NQF5eU+4CeQlXIucjMPjSufJ7UpPBu0rGvuof5da aQsmNq72orxnZZCMwk9vLU/M2Id0i4nio/gpdPLh4oD1H9yiHaf1flSQl3JvRxBkZUXI GCxuy2Gpr46ijUTaHxTddlOXpFG4h8usoIcFykSe/M8YMZB7BeeBQ/T5yHFvQRGowOgU JS1otpt16Ntw8M+uQVVdTyxUzMfI29RPvVR2m5YGeA6RlGd7FiaJxStNLT0m7XkO1ElW cnCA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533XiFNSIbcl/tMx+4DvI1WXuAi4YdfRplL48cz0LJBcV/ygMgeO pVGWHeWRBtaTJ+nHoR17gYOgEpFEnvZGp34Trpqa8+oL X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyAOgDpzEj5Svnz38ZjR4PW5fEJDZ7tnEP6pN04lHUqaBabLNLwm5oYIjuNrmjmfxsz+kkjb7WQtojPSnWq6MQ= X-Received: by 2002:a7b:cf11:: with SMTP id l17mr24890940wmg.128.1617032750689; Mon, 29 Mar 2021 08:45:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a5d:510c:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Mon, 29 Mar 2021 08:45:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20210329143449.GA28080@mcvoy.com> From: Andy Kosela Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2021 17:45:50 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: nEOHyoIFCkyNXTq5XtfCh7MxGB4 Message-ID: To: Brantley Coile Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Remember the ed thread? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: "tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org" Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Monday, March 29, 2021, Brantley Coile wrote: > > From 1984, when I stopped using vi (vee eye), until the early 1990's, when > I could use Sam, I used a slightly hacked version of ed. I added > what the Labs called the "b" command. I had use some other character. Dennis > Ritchie sent me a 8th Edition Unix manual, and I saw they had added almost > the same thing and called the command by the second letter. Vi called > it the last letter, "z." > > I've never found ed slows me down. Some things I would have used awk/sed > for that I now use Sam's command window for, but that's a bad thing. I still > use ed a lot along side Sam. > If ed(1) had cursor positioning and full screen capabilities along with line oriented editing (similar to Atari 8-bit default editor) it would be perfect. I still love it though and use it pretty often. --Andy