From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 2326 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2023 18:48:34 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 30 Jan 2023 18:48:34 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACD1E42631; Tue, 31 Jan 2023 04:48:29 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-oi1-f170.google.com (mail-oi1-f170.google.com [209.85.167.170]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FA3942630 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2023 04:48:20 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-oi1-f170.google.com with SMTP id bj22so1778551oib.11 for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2023 10:48:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:references:in-reply-to:sender :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=/w6hCtKfTVkxbvMQ4/j02/sC6s2Ek0pBDvgY1XFW62c=; b=bjnCCHmcnF7Tapmo1MIaUlDh8JGqPlmHoTDqMaCYmbTDGmw+0MvkVlP8bGE0oFgool wgAJGv4ksYAZn0u7IL6hs1CZ9qP/04BqDGGTce8qJCLmhdb7wSuRo3o3eDa6bjDA+Svl yA/x4QeH78teHDADDUlQ8r/Gko30hJ29mHgIFWLj8GZ1ECjoBVkShLzBX+JwTf6MCETy HCANgt/jHfOuKb2KbS1ThUCTZhKYio3p4JseML/JrNpmcwFVME+8QiT5kPXpLYO9y+ev kHmt28garQd3wIvI3j9kplc5DdSCxIN0roCg0RIkmcSfRmS7kUa5XJNqFmuUh0oSaiCK A2vA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:references:in-reply-to:sender :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=/w6hCtKfTVkxbvMQ4/j02/sC6s2Ek0pBDvgY1XFW62c=; b=W9McXgrDukUGtRzSC6qv51lN3WgKHGLR8MHLlkJaFc6Q2r6sLu7z86C7EGzJVeXYO1 2JPFgQH7WOqhg97Fq2acClSf69zFkSj1kmWLuTMxn8RBv77ikN4Ww57ar63driAp7e2j TN4X5Dg7mS/BS6s5Y6yl+AROfAlQYCN76cjh2xapYc7XuwsfJBA2IvZV881Ae6dxqcwq UhHkatxIIG6FraRSjGyZEh3o4nKEPtwBBdebV1rfnj47KYRWhsRxFvQUf74yKqeS8slD Yy5DXejd/4rk49F1k5ZALvZkkRrdNKX+aUAc3yIb+i5QMA7+sBjJXOqDKdBXfSn+1ZVz L+TA== X-Gm-Message-State: AFqh2krx/iLIsOqSqoMoeRDgyrEX2YbmOj2DUeht2bCZCmVDnlwjL/jq ncoagGA/m7CkjvQjrxRQzZCg6wW3ZjUYBVqNl2BW9UzBWvE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMrXdXvpT/2+XOg0bcN/N8WJ2vED366mhjlG5qKWJRtAMvOlpMIIeqU+JVdt1vcWh95ww4jlSH8gmqiCvzSG/WVDZUs= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6808:2892:b0:367:bf22:8471 with SMTP id eu18-20020a056808289200b00367bf228471mr3436928oib.22.1675104439579; Mon, 30 Jan 2023 10:47:19 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: andy.kosela@gmail.com Received: by 2002:a05:6358:9acd:b0:ed:3ecf:acbb with HTTP; Mon, 30 Jan 2023 10:47:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Andy Kosela Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2023 19:47:19 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: kdc4a8BEMzRzQLf6L3VQkUXKeJA Message-ID: To: ron minnich Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000001539e405f37fa544" Message-ID-Hash: FE3542PMUHE5V77EHXAMRODO3NC2O2TU X-Message-ID-Hash: FE3542PMUHE5V77EHXAMRODO3NC2O2TU X-MailFrom: andy.kosela@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: yet another C discussion (YACD) and: Rust is not C++ List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --0000000000001539e405f37fa544 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Monday, January 30, 2023, ron minnich wrote: > I did not want to disrupt the FD 2 discussion, but I could not really let > this comment go unanswered: > > "Smells like C++ to me. Rust in essence is a re-implementation of C++ not > C. It tries to pack as much features as it possibly can. " > > It's hard for me to see how you can say this if you have done any work in > Rust and C++. > > But, short form: Rust is not C++. Full stop. > > I did not feel that comment should go unanswered, lest people believe it. > Well, I will stand by my opinion, but perhaps you misread what I meant. I meant that as a whole Rust resembles more C++ than C. Technically it might lie in between C and C++, but the amount of "features" certainly bring it closer to C++. While it might be easier to write safer code in Rust than in C++, I still think that its "weird" syntax and feature bloat make me dislike it the way I dislike C++. Just my .02. YMMV. --Andy --0000000000001539e405f37fa544 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Monday, January 30, 2023, ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com> wrote:
I did not want to disrupt the FD 2 discussion, but I = could not really let this comment go unanswered:

"S= mells like C++ to me. Rust in essence is a re-implementation of C++ not C. = It tries to pack as much features as it possibly can. "

=
It's hard for me to see how you can say this if you have don= e any work in Rust and C++.=C2=A0

But, short form:= Rust is not C++. Full stop.=C2=A0

I did not feel = that comment should go unanswered, lest people believe it.

Well, I will stand by my opinion, but perhaps y= ou misread what I meant. I meant that as a whole Rust resembles more C++ th= an C. Technically it might lie in between C and C++, but the amount of &quo= t;features" certainly bring it closer to C++. While it might be easier= to write safer code in Rust than in C++, I still think that its "weir= d" syntax and feature bloat make me dislike it the way I dislike C++.<= /div>

Just my .02. YMMV.

--Andy=
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