From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 31997 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2023 12:41:24 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 3 Sep 2023 12:41:24 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DAA541016; Sun, 3 Sep 2023 22:41:19 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ed1-x530.google.com (mail-ed1-x530.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::530]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E42940BA4 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2023 22:41:13 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ed1-x530.google.com with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-52bca2e8563so672270a12.2 for ; Sun, 03 Sep 2023 05:41:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1693744871; x=1694349671; darn=tuhs.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=3fpbLnionvx4n6enCncnsMEAuoANdg/8Hjk7OIGL0Mo=; b=Zhh7/3EEahecRnyc//yMCrol+VGbYlEyVlad2R2U98rHurStG3HWw4hWr5AQOss9l8 Hb0HOcMGjtYbKSt6+cL6GMatP+vMmRLLeiUO1MJfPmeLamdnvzyaLIJ5VUwjUdY7VILv XN7hChy2pNr3+J2QAOKqNdMEejLUudHW4At8LHguXrN93rdN9dhWZ5td4x+VoH9JFpQq D5NjUX7tFGX0LNKvcnYiDXfTVVo4kFu7crwTa2nWAtsSHTo6+23VDwiS9oPaQ5G1BAWA qGt2vrD9Ht2wUWQyiys70MIbsHDLX2PlXRAA77nLu3XdRVWm0WgrkrTcnTXib38D+z3P g3jg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1693744871; x=1694349671; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=3fpbLnionvx4n6enCncnsMEAuoANdg/8Hjk7OIGL0Mo=; b=gmofc1cTLpDXrLlFAZYgQEUIpFHAB4s/TguyNaP8R7/afBXscqQ2LmHHbC6tANsPEg 0PMbsCwd58e6B/jQ6SF3TOT4vieTZ8drLxNRcCpfC/lzTjoXRuJClTyszXmnCYAgELwF zXNgjkilGyH//IbKOEi4vYfzyiYszgMFJ97z9WccdC/h6NYTjkHqiBiMOtJrT7aNIE7/ Me5lmrDrxpCZofs3GgZsaGplkuWDhgc9W+hLeewobaRlzPTNGvbHVRRdQRRgbnUYLVvk b+sej1VuDo1GLmTrWcjBoGALT3c80lsl3yT9Fvavl6idGl84haG8jtTF0G4lC5hHvbna qw/A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwRPSiAu//pVSVAhvMNkv9vgIEu3E/DqhrMwTk83/L2GH1kFTJF UdBehQJJ+d5Ih1ilh/tDitsW/6gTSAg37rIpRJg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFk0+WigbYnhXyXWI5+F0Nn1InYpenAXfh3dPGUrecU5182NU7e7P1ygdC2Is7x71UaRnAneZyznhNWlXE5HP4= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:74de:b0:9a2:1c88:b94 with SMTP id z30-20020a17090674de00b009a21c880b94mr5333700ejl.65.1693744870921; Sun, 03 Sep 2023 05:41:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Marc Donner Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2023 08:40:59 -0400 Message-ID: To: Andrew Warkentin Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000005f1c4a060473b549" Message-ID-Hash: DWFKAOXZH6S3PWXG2VXD4FV7X2TPXNW4 X-Message-ID-Hash: DWFKAOXZH6S3PWXG2VXD4FV7X2TPXNW4 X-MailFrom: marc.donner@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Were any of the commercial unixes source-available? List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --0000000000005f1c4a060473b549 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My team at Morgan Stanley had a source license to SunOS in the early =E2=80= =9890s. We tried to secure a license to AIX source but never succeeded. On Sun, Sep 3, 2023 at 7:26 AM Andrew Warkentin wrote: > On 9/2/23, Joseph Holsten wrote: > > I=E2=80=99ve been playing around trying to link the OpenSolaris launch = commit to > > various pieces in the Unix History Repository, and it=E2=80=99s making = me wonder > if > > we=E2=80=99ll ever have a chance to see the history of the systems. > > > > I=E2=80=99m less concerned about HPUX, AIX and SCO=E2=80=99s offerings = since I presume > > someone has copy inside these companies. But what about A/UX, Irix, > Tru64? > > Did these ever get sold with licenses to source tapes? Are there copies > we > > need to preserve in-camera so something can exist 120 years after > creation > > or whenever copyright expires? > > > There are source leaks for quite a few commercial Unices floating > around in various places. These are the ones I'm aware of: > > A/UX (0.7, which is complete, and 2.x, which is only the kernel) > AIX 4.1.3 (most of the kernel and some of user space, possibly > complete enough to build) > BSD/OS (various versions, probably complete) > DEC OSF/1 (1.0 and 2.0; these seem reasonably complete) > DYNIX 3.x (several versions, possibly complete enough to build) > DYNIX/PTX (4.x?; possibly complete enough to build) > IRIX 6.5.5 (missing quite a few major packages and nowhere near > complete enough to build) > MIPS RISC/os 4.52 (possibly complete) > SGI System V GL2-W3.7 (for the IRIS 3000 68K machines; probably complete) > SunOS 4.1.3 (seems to be the complete base system) > System V for the 3b2 (several 3.x versions, possibly complete) > System V for the UNIX PC (3.51, possibly complete) > System V/386 4.2 (possibly complete) > ULTRIX-11 (at least 3.1) > ULTRIX-32 (2.0, which has been confirmed to build by someone else, and > 4.2, which is also fairly complete) > > I haven't looked at any of these in depth, so I'm not completely sure > of the status of any of them except for A/UX and ULTRIX > --0000000000005f1c4a060473b549 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My team at Morgan Stanley had a source license to SunOS i= n the early =E2=80=9890s.=C2=A0 We tried to secure a license to AIX source = but never succeeded.

On Sun, Sep 3, 2023 at 7:26 AM Andrew Warkentin &l= t;andreww591@gmail.com> wrot= e:
On 9/2/23, Joseph Holsten <joseph@josephholsten.com&= gt; wrote:
> I=E2=80=99ve been playing around trying to link the OpenSolaris launch= commit to
> various pieces in the Unix History Repository, and it=E2=80=99s making= me wonder if
> we=E2=80=99ll ever have a chance to see the history of the systems. >
> I=E2=80=99m less concerned about HPUX, AIX and SCO=E2=80=99s offerings= since I presume
> someone has copy inside these companies. But what about A/UX, Irix, Tr= u64?
> Did these ever get sold with licenses to source tapes? Are there copie= s we
> need to preserve in-camera so something can exist 120 years after crea= tion
> or whenever copyright expires?
>
There are source leaks for quite a few commercial Unices floating
around in various places. These are the ones I'm aware of:

A/UX (0.7, which is complete, and 2.x, which is only the kernel)
AIX 4.1.3 (most of the kernel and some of user space, possibly
complete enough to build)
BSD/OS (various versions, probably complete)
DEC OSF/1 (1.0 and 2.0; these seem reasonably complete)
DYNIX 3.x (several versions, possibly complete enough to build)
DYNIX/PTX (4.x?; possibly complete enough to build)
IRIX 6.5.5 (missing quite a few major packages and nowhere near
complete enough to build)
MIPS RISC/os 4.52 (possibly complete)
SGI System V GL2-W3.7 (for the IRIS 3000 68K machines; probably complete) SunOS 4.1.3 (seems to be the complete base system)
System V for the 3b2 (several 3.x versions, possibly complete)
System V for the UNIX PC (3.51, possibly complete)
System V/386 4.2 (possibly complete)
ULTRIX-11 (at least 3.1)
ULTRIX-32 (2.0, which has been confirmed to build by someone else, and
4.2, which is also fairly complete)

I haven't looked at any of these in depth, so I'm not completely su= re
of the status of any of them except for A/UX and ULTRIX
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