From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 22752 invoked from network); 11 Dec 2022 22:24:55 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 11 Dec 2022 22:24:55 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EE054240E; Mon, 12 Dec 2022 08:24:19 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-oi1-f176.google.com (mail-oi1-f176.google.com [209.85.167.176]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AAAEE4240D for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2022 08:24:13 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-oi1-f176.google.com with SMTP id q186so9654522oia.9 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2022 14:24:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Z+6NjoP00Kn7+U4X+iuq0ENJLoGH7vRCiUJwF+ogdHo=; b=p+5jF9+FmAVf4+uLEKe0PiSWYNPiBR3QdPiO4mOyHrxls0I1zaOea7+s2wUVVvZRnl CQcBxRqStSwzRBUux03jMZ3e3Z0z9LCTRJLhIG1elmi3r/c65A0XCIN6wU1GT4L/QICX TC1yJ5zP0NEg+jrCv+zXGg4GPUOerYNoZ16AMK0h8ciPoqip10NVo/h9dqkZO6apYKgN 7AePsV0xiCT4kWfhxQsZzm7HHqxu5WODA0S8NcPPq+ecYY6xy/KiLWUavVB0H6g+6YFJ xeBK70ehG0N+JaMwqmncH9YLkAi5LFY3GTCFZApUXYlb7nkqbtKETEIe9gj77nElx5Xk otmQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=Z+6NjoP00Kn7+U4X+iuq0ENJLoGH7vRCiUJwF+ogdHo=; b=BKn10jMWHAJAf32HWuK2NS9xjRPauJzAodn75ns/aDaAdtFNzNObtHnCd5aT75oz+j N9/AV4ULg3CuMtZoUO+lz8ErM57TtqrSXKkq4IWQh916cc+nJr8ZKTTQuq6wR3Gc6BGP q3Fa3+T+SZs7WfQG3iD72oo21ioFzkIJkZJItK/J8fPSCQysAKASWEchsy8gZmu+ThGo LTO8ld/AEayiQGGVWdfajvrOsc5y0nWJos03PX2fPjCWDjlem7UoFqwgR9Q04e7sYTjj Q1Ujdx3CEjX0RTy3UvJp/Seyz5NaQyLSgyl7Zz6CyCgRedgN16YXXSGNiRYs3n7oNWWP BXfw== X-Gm-Message-State: ANoB5pnb0J6lUMq545EL/usolm4AeJ95YHoYzpz3eCKD7hmuTIAiwgDl 4kHr6pNzXey9whDwHtiT44fFlQ6/xXf+aKFlx8IehJnVrfs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA0mqf5NPE3aAU08aP7seNqJvYVL8SHUzCaPx/0Z2REhYMhZvKzZg3zWB64knszNkqH6NR/5smBLJ+M9sFdNkme03sg= X-Received: by 2002:aca:d803:0:b0:359:b4bd:890a with SMTP id p3-20020acad803000000b00359b4bd890amr37006524oig.175.1670797392647; Sun, 11 Dec 2022 14:23:12 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Marc Donner Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2022 17:23:00 -0500 Message-ID: To: Adam Sampson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000149ade05ef94d532" Message-ID-Hash: 24A2XM2BJDRPFC7CJFRRCLFKVIM2QPBA X-Message-ID-Hash: 24A2XM2BJDRPFC7CJFRRCLFKVIM2QPBA X-MailFrom: marc.donner@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Bringing a Chainsaw List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000149ade05ef94d532 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I heard from Mike Cowlishaw about the IBM jargon items "branch to Fishkill" and "branch to Owego" They reflect a set of site pairs within IBM in which one site designed and made hardware (Fishkill, Owego) and another site designs and builds software (Kingston, Endicott). To the software folks the hardware world was esoteric and weird, hence the branch targets for weirdness were the hardware sites. ===== nygeek.net mindthegapdialogs.com/home On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 12:15 PM Marc Donner wrote: > Mike is an old friend ... I will send him a copy of "Bringing a Chainsaw" > and ask ... I don't think he was in Yorktown at the time but I probably > told him about the work while it was happening. > ===== > nygeek.net > mindthegapdialogs.com/home > > > On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 11:56 AM Adam Sampson wrote: > >> John Cowan writes: >> >> > Some editions of the Jargon File contain an entry for _branch to >> > Fishkill_, defined as "Any unexpected jump in a program that produces >> > catastrophic or just plain weird results" and attributed to IBM. >> >> Mike Cowlishaw's IBM Jargon and General Computing Dictionary, Tenth >> Edition was probably the source for >> this -- it includes both "branch to Fishkill" and "branch to Owego" with >> exactly this definition. >> >> -- >> Adam Sampson >> > --000000000000149ade05ef94d532 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I heard from Mike Cowlishaw about the IBM jargo= n items "branch to Fishkill" and "branch to Owego"

They reflect a set of site pairs within IB= M in which one site designed and made hardware (Fishkill, Owego) and anothe= r site designs and builds software (Kingston, Endicott).=C2=A0 To the softw= are folks the hardware world was esoteric and weird, hence the branch targe= ts for weirdness were the hardware sites.


On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 12= :15 PM Marc Donner <marc.donner@gmail.com> wrote:
Mike is an old frie= nd ... I will send him a copy of "Bringing a Chainsaw" and ask ..= . I don't think he was in Yorktown at the time but I probably told him = about the work while it was happening.

On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 11:56 AM Adam Sampson <ats@offog.org> wrote:
John Cowan <cowan@ccil.org> writes:=

> Some editions of the Jargon File contain an entry for _branch to
> Fishkill_, defined as "Any unexpected jump in a program that prod= uces
> catastrophic or just plain weird results" and attributed to IBM.<= br>
Mike Cowlishaw's IBM Jargon and General Computing Dictionary, Tenth
Edition <http://www.comlay.net/ibmjarg.pdf> was probably = the source for
this -- it includes both "branch to Fishkill" and "branch to= Owego" with
exactly this definition.

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