From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 1551 invoked from network); 23 May 2023 00:07:47 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (2600:3c01:e000:146::1) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 23 May 2023 00:07:47 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1928B410EA; Tue, 23 May 2023 10:07:41 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-oa1-x2b.google.com (mail-oa1-x2b.google.com [IPv6:2001:4860:4864:20::2b]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F0D92410E9 for ; Tue, 23 May 2023 10:07:29 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-oa1-x2b.google.com with SMTP id 586e51a60fabf-19a7aae7ab8so1164814fac.1 for ; Mon, 22 May 2023 17:07:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1684800449; x=1687392449; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=XSDoW02fT1mDlbZMG3x7Wa4qlZ+SCDjr1x/zkIHjLdY=; b=XjEeKblHwgaG+W2YTiJsdstmD6S1x3KHRWTJ1r6zS+TW0LkZ+VIjQgE8zEhYnv6YAP X1UCHsgmzGFaaMG0i11QmksWCFhhbsP1aM+i4GKOmFrVREwqqlkEDozZ2TNp4mGQu8gt AAgdEwv1JwxlDB14T0ltGMdLwNm4aZnWiiZMV/ImHirhjUmyXvVCSyfjXWg3CSVbfAad 0pt8rGHsLUF4Wg0zivp5WfsQNPaoQBfkV9Y2WJbiZTxyrwGrXW25t8cfFcPakuQcEUFX yxoBJpxtvGi7Fc7RqC7g5UsLTzJQT/rwbJdPsWD7W3lPwRuVufKfZD8IrfSm2z1WGiwD fLeA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1684800449; x=1687392449; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=XSDoW02fT1mDlbZMG3x7Wa4qlZ+SCDjr1x/zkIHjLdY=; b=A+BxLeivUN4Qf8Bb0KI8mB+cuul7mf6xVHCUTsAOU5FOKix+4vybO9ZqgMytxmbFLk 4IZTq2d/SfX7lTBuum8EqVh1Mv1cV1/uaKz+5QP3novgholmbbswZtaKlJNbjaUNoblP T1RFh42OBC4rtVqjkOJBR6Lbj9uuBXGab5aKhdzOlbvRo2zTWiHO3tZU7vqrV7UpmQYA KT8i8VlnIdrGDPt3FRdIEXAkn3IY0qeu9PIpf9+d273Ey46EGONdCf9UinTVHdHP312n QOO828hlJsab9RS3zqALDCz8DhdNw6tnKGxGZNeuz/4azjpkBBaloZ/EEKl6/mdacklH L3dA== X-Gm-Message-State: AC+VfDzN5WpJmZ3ruj0u11lOyx04/y2FMl2585Dh0Fv5hqLU9X4k2n+/ TWO5z0PHuJGwCy4K+QLGsnfBl+eRELzqHRGdQtlPtoro X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACHHUZ6rUsMNyo8rycEIiQ/yp6x5z83JYe6YmdDybE+sjt9feL5O1D1MxI5ZueiFWLsXggxcUEeZhxSCsvWfbWYnK5Q= X-Received: by 2002:a54:4705:0:b0:396:fb3:e15d with SMTP id k5-20020a544705000000b003960fb3e15dmr6235975oik.16.1684800448818; Mon, 22 May 2023 17:07:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Ken Thompson Date: Mon, 22 May 2023 17:07:17 -0700 Message-ID: To: segaloco Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000044f43605fc512ca8" Message-ID-Hash: UJKKPM4PL3LLSFZUMVTZT7OVP2BSGLVN X-Message-ID-Hash: UJKKPM4PL3LLSFZUMVTZT7OVP2BSGLVN X-MailFrom: kenbob@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Early UNIX Explor Support? List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --00000000000044f43605fc512ca8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable explor is (was) a graphical language by ken knowlton. it ran offline on the mainframe and produced a mag tape to be run on a machine called tapex. the tapex machine exposed micro-film that had to be developed and printed. not the quickest turnaround. anyway, i wrote a unix version of explor that printed directly on a tek display terminal. it was never really used for anything. somewhere, i have polaroids of pictures of explor output on the tek. On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 5:00=E2=80=AFPM segaloco via TUHS w= rote: > Good day, something I've come across in my documentation study that I > finally got around to researching a bit is a reference to the language > Explor in the V2 ld(I) page: > > 'There are libraries for Fortran (x=3D"f"), C (x=3D"c"), Explor (x=3D"e")= and B > (x=3D"b").' > > The manual has no corresponding mention of any Explor environment, not > even a section VI page. The only other UNIX Explor reference I can easil= y > find is on the mailing list here indicating that there is a version of > Explor for UNIX on a 1977 tape here (in the 1/explor+dl directory): > https://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Applications/Usenix_77/ug091377.tar.gz > > Does anyone know if there is continuity here or if the V2 reference and > the code on the tape are only related in that they're both for Explor? > > - Matt G. > --00000000000044f43605fc512ca8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
explor is (was) a graphical language by ken knowlton.
= it ran offline on the mainframe and produced a mag tape
to be run= on a machine called tapex. the tapex machine
exposed micro-film = that had to be developed=C2=A0and printed.

not the= quickest turnaround.

anyway, i wrote a unix versi= on of explor=C2=A0that printed directly
on a tek display terminal= . it was never really used for
anything. somewhere, i have polaro= ids=C2=A0of pictures of
explor output on the tek.

<= /div>

On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 5:00=E2=80=AFPM segaloco via TUHS <tuhs@tuhs.org> wrote:
Good day, something I've come ac= ross in my documentation study that I finally got around to researching a b= it is a reference to the language Explor in the V2 ld(I) page:

'There are libraries for Fortran (x=3D"f"), C (x=3D"c&qu= ot;), Explor (x=3D"e") and B (x=3D"b").'

The manual has no corresponding mention of any Explor environment, not even= a section VI page.=C2=A0 The only other UNIX Explor reference I can easily= find is on the mailing list here indicating that there is a version of Exp= lor for UNIX on a 1977 tape here (in the 1/explor+dl directory): https://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Applications= /Usenix_77/ug091377.tar.gz

Does anyone know if there is continuity here or if the V2 reference and the= code on the tape are only related in that they're both for Explor?

- Matt G.
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