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List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000788012060c49b0e6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable there was a room with left-hand screw 100 watt light bulbs and sockets. On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 6:36=E2=80=AFPM Peter Weinberger (=E6=B8=A9=E5=8D= =9A=E6=A0=BC) via TUHS < tuhs@tuhs.org> wrote: > The protons must have decayed by now. > > On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 8:25=E2=80=AFPM ron minnich = wrote: > >> is "PJW in magnets" still there, I wonder. >> >> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 5:06=E2=80=AFPM segaloco via TUHS wrote: >> >>> While my gut says not likely, I'm holding out hope that Nokia is keen o= n >>> ensuring someone does a historical sweep of the premises before all is = said >>> and done. You never know what might be sitting forgotten in a closet >>> somewhere...a lot of history has gone down in those illustrious halls, >>> formative moments in our quest for better technology for which a modern >>> equivalent fails to come to mind. >>> >>> For me it's not just about innovations though, but a culture of >>> curiosity, openness, and what feels like genuine interest in bettering = the >>> human condition that seeps from so much of the work accomplished by MH = and >>> other Bell Labs sites over the decades. A video I watched recently abo= ut >>> the breakup of the Bell System echoed what I see in countless recollect= ions >>> of Bell Labs alumni, a sense that their work was contributing to someth= ing >>> greater for everyone, not just the bottom line of the telephone company= . >>> Hopefully the lessons Bell Labs has taught many an engineer, scientist,= and >>> businessperson over the years outlive these facilities by orders of >>> magnitude, but in either case, sad to see the physical artifacts of suc= h >>> important times passing too into the sands of time. >>> >>> - Matt G. >>> On Monday, December 11th, 2023 at 1:21 PM, ron minnich < >>> rminnich@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> April 16, 2014, from the Unix room: >>> >>> "I'm about to turn this terminal off, >>> the last one in the Unix Room. It's the >>> same 400MHz Pentium II I've had since >>> before left." >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 11:46=E2=80=AFAM Marty McGowan, MIT Club of Pri= nceton < >>> martymcg@fastmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Thus following the Holmdel facility into the Halls of Oblivion. >>>> >>>> my current location, just E of the NJ Tpke, now splits the distance >>>> between them. >>>> >>>> I was in HO in the late '80s, at MH in the mid '90s, there to divide >>>> the corporate directory. >>>> >>>> Anecdote on the latter: The "company to be named" - i.e. Lucent had to >>>> shell out Hundreds of 1000s to Yet Another Garage Tronics in Silicon V= alley >>>> for rights to the name -- the internet was young enough that the Name >>>> Search committee didn't have "Dot Com" in it's dictionary as yet. >>>> >>>> =3D*+[]* Marty McGowan +1 908 230-3739 <(908)%20230-3739> >>>> VP of Membership, MIT Club of Princeton >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Dec 9, 2023, at 15:37, John Floren via TUHS wrote: >>>> >>>> I can't believe they'd give up the building, it's a beautiful >>>> structure. Maybe they'll use it for other groups. >>>> >>>> >>>> john >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> --000000000000788012060c49b0e6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
there was a room with left-hand screw
100 watt light b= ulbs and sockets.


=
On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 6:36=E2=80=AF= PM Peter Weinberger (=E6=B8=A9=E5=8D=9A=E6=A0=BC) via TUHS <tuhs@tuhs.org> wrote:
The protons must have decayed by now.
<= /div>
O= n Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 8:25=E2=80=AFPM ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com> wrote:
is &= quot;PJW in magnets" still there, I wonder.

On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 5:0= 6=E2=80=AFPM segaloco via TUHS <tuhs@tuhs.org> wrote:
While my gut says not likely, I'm holding= out hope that Nokia is keen on ensuring someone does a historical sweep of= the premises before all is said and done.=C2=A0 You never know what might = be sitting forgotten in a closet somewhere...a lot of history has gone down= in those illustrious halls, formative moments in our quest for better tech= nology for which a modern equivalent fails to come to mind.

<= /div>
For me it's not just about innovations though, but a culture = of curiosity, openness, and what feels like genuine interest in bettering t= he human condition that seeps from so much of the work accomplished by MH a= nd other Bell Labs sites over the decades.=C2=A0 A video I watched recently= about the breakup of the Bell System echoed what I see in countless recoll= ections of Bell Labs alumni, a sense that their work was contributing to so= mething greater for everyone, not just the bottom line of the telephone com= pany.=C2=A0 Hopefully the lessons Bell Labs has taught many an engineer, sc= ientist, and businessperson over the years outlive these facilities by orde= rs of magnitude, but in either case, sad to see the physical artifacts of s= uch important times passing too into the sands of time.

- Matt G.=
On Monday, December 11th, 2023 at 1:21 PM, ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com>= wrote:

April 16, 2014, from the Unix room:

"I'm about to turn this terminal off,
the last o= ne in the Unix Room. It's the
same 400MHz Pentium II I've had si= nce
before <someone> left."

On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 11:46=E2= =80=AFAM Marty McGowan, MIT Club of Princeton <mart= ymcg@fastmail.com> wrote:
Thus following the Holmdel facility= into the Halls of Oblivion.

my current locati= on, just E of the NJ Tpke, now splits the distance between them.
<= div>
I was in HO in the late '80s, at MH in the mid '= 90s, there to divide the corporate directory.

Anecdote on the latter: The "company to be named" - i.e. Lucen= t had to shell out Hundreds of 1000s to Yet Another Garage Tronics in Silic= on Valley for rights to the name -- the internet was young enough that the = Name Search committee didn't have "Dot Com" in it's dict= ionary as yet.

= =3D*+[]* Marty McGowan +1 908 230-3739

=



<= br>

On Sat, Dec 9, 2023, at 15:37, John Flor= en via TUHS wrote:
=
I can't believe they'd give up the building, it's a beauti= ful structure. Maybe they'll use it for other groups.

john

<= br>

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