The PDP-11 had very little the syntax of B expressions. All of that was in place in B long before the PDP-11. To be honest, the byte addressing of the 11 was a significant hindrance. It was the genius of Dennis that was able to conquer the 11 as he installed types into the language. So, my opinion, the PDP-11 had no design on the type system of C and moreover it was not even helpful. On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 1:17 PM Jon Steinhart wrote: > Rob Pike writes: > > Is there a symbiosis between C and the PDP-11 instruction set? The > > machine was vital to C and Unix's success, but primarily due to the > > availability of a department-sized machine. Was the instruction set a > > significant component? Most Unix programmers wrote little to no > > assembly, although perhaps more read what came out of the compiler. > > But did it matter? Auto-increment and -decrement are often cited in > > this story, but they are not that important, really, and were around > > well before the PDP-11 made its appearance. > > > > I'm curious to hear arguments on either side. > > > > -rob > > Well, might just be my personal experience, but most of the machines > that I had used before the 11 were classic accumulator architectures. > I feel that the 11's pointer architecture combined with autoincrement > and autodecrement was an amazing fit for C. If I remember correctly, > it was very cool to have *p++ = *q++ be a single instruction. > > BTW, one thing that I forgot in my earlier post is that I think that > the book also omitted any mention of Creative Commons. The book did > talk about the business of the web and such, and it's my opinion that > CC was an an essential third prong. The machines were one, the software > was another, the third was content and CC was a big enabler. > > Jon >