From: Kenneth Goodwin <kennethgoodwin56@gmail.com>
To: Phil Budne <phil@ultimate.com>
Cc: TUHS main list <tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] First Unix-like OSes not derived from AT&T code?
Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 08:59:10 -0400 [thread overview]
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Compiles before the return key
That phrase as i recall it i have associated with the Amdahl mainframe, not
IBM. Anyone else recall this event at a USENIX conference???
They released a C Compiler for it and I think also a unix version for it.
the phrase that they coined to indicate the shear speed of it at the time
went something like this -
You can compile the entire UNIX kernel in the debounce time of the return
key.
It was part of the presentation on their C compiler implementation. Perhaps
it was IBM and I need to replace some faulty core and rebuild some database
indices......
The phrase has been stuck in my head ever since.
On Sun, May 1, 2022, 10:43 PM Phil Budne <phil@ultimate.com> wrote:
> Ron Minnich wrote:
> > in terms of rewrites from manuals, while it was not the first, as I
> > understand it, AIX was an example of "read the manual, write the
> > code."
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> My memory, from having a "finger" program that tried to display the
> foreground/active process for each tty/login/utmp entry, is that there
> it was possible there were multiple code bases (tho it's possible
> there was just one, and it mutated wildly across major versions), all
> called "AIX" (and as my old boss, Barry Shein (BZS) at Boston
> University said, they all "will remind you of Unix"), there were (at
> least) versions for:
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> RT PC
> RS/6000 (POWER, PowerPC)
> PS/2
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> I never had access to AIX/370, but BZS got a chance to try it out in a
> VM on the academic computing S/390, and ISTR he said it finished
> compiles before you hit return.
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> There was also a (pretty clean, ISTR) port of 4.3 BSD to the RT called
> "ACIS", but it might only have been available to academic sites.
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> My memory is also that IBM had a very broad license for SVR2 and when
> the Open Software Foundation came together (with people who weren't
> AT&T or Sun), IBM was able to offer that up as a code base.
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2022-05-01 9:30 Andrew Warkentin
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2022-05-01 14:03 ` Kenneth Goodwin
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2022-05-01 14:09 ` Kenneth Goodwin
2022-05-01 18:08 ` ron minnich
2022-05-01 18:22 ` Charles H Sauer (he/him)
2022-05-01 19:49 ` Dan Stromberg
2022-05-01 20:37 ` Charles H Sauer (he/him)
2022-05-02 2:08 ` Kenneth Goodwin
2022-05-02 9:21 ` Dr Iain Maoileoin
2022-05-02 20:19 ` Rich Morin
2022-05-02 21:30 ` Clem Cole
2022-05-02 21:36 ` Dan Cross
2022-05-10 15:28 ` Mary Ann Horton
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2022-05-10 19:08 ` Henry Bent
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2022-05-10 20:18 ` Ronald Natalie
2022-05-11 16:20 ` James Frew
2022-05-11 16:51 ` Paul Winalski
2022-05-10 20:28 ` Henry Bent
2022-05-10 20:43 ` Warner Losh
2022-05-10 20:46 ` Clem Cole
2022-05-11 16:44 ` Paul Winalski
2022-05-11 17:09 ` Clem Cole
2022-05-11 17:35 ` Larry McVoy
2022-05-12 0:16 ` George Michaelson
2022-05-13 2:46 ` Adam Thornton
2022-05-15 0:48 ` Larry McVoy
2022-05-15 5:36 ` Adam Thornton
2022-05-15 13:37 ` Larry McVoy
2022-05-12 5:22 ` Warner Losh
2022-05-12 12:06 ` Ron Natalie
2022-05-12 12:43 ` John Cowan
2022-05-15 2:00 ` Stuart Remphrey
2022-05-02 2:42 ` Phil Budne
2022-05-02 6:46 ` Ron Natalie
2022-05-02 13:50 ` Clem Cole
2022-05-02 14:46 ` tytso
2022-05-02 15:38 ` Clem Cole
2022-05-02 20:31 ` Warner Losh
2022-05-03 5:01 ` tytso
2022-05-03 11:35 ` Richard Salz
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2022-05-03 7:28 ` Ronald Natalie
2022-05-02 12:59 ` Kenneth Goodwin [this message]
2022-05-02 14:13 ` Richard Salz
2022-05-02 13:14 ` tytso
2022-05-02 13:32 ` Larry McVoy
2022-05-02 13:16 ` Dan Cross
2022-05-02 14:14 ` Miod Vallat
2022-05-02 14:50 ` ron minnich
2022-05-02 16:13 ` Al Kossow
2022-05-02 18:46 ` Miod Vallat
2022-05-02 19:54 ` Chet Ramey
2022-05-02 21:17 ` Dan Cross
2022-05-02 23:49 ` George Michaelson
2022-05-03 7:22 ` Ronald Natalie
2022-05-03 7:40 ` Miod Vallat
2022-05-03 8:03 ` Ron Natalie
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2022-05-03 12:14 ` John Foust via TUHS
2022-05-01 20:55 ` Michael Huff
2022-05-03 4:55 ` Jim Carpenter
2022-05-02 15:43 ` Clem Cole
2022-05-02 16:16 ` Bakul Shah
2022-05-02 16:19 ` Bakul Shah
2022-05-02 17:14 ` Clem Cole
2022-05-02 16:29 ` Larry McVoy
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