From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 8433 invoked from network); 1 May 2022 14:11:48 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 1 May 2022 14:11:48 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id E423C9CF6E; Mon, 2 May 2022 00:11:46 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F06C9CF0E; Mon, 2 May 2022 00:09:22 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="OtyiS/Zr"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 635639CF0E; Mon, 2 May 2022 00:09:19 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-wm1-f47.google.com (mail-wm1-f47.google.com [209.85.128.47]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1DAD79CF04 for ; Mon, 2 May 2022 00:09:18 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-wm1-f47.google.com with SMTP id o12-20020a1c4d0c000000b00393fbe2973dso8586792wmh.2 for ; Sun, 01 May 2022 07:09:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=xrSPID2649shYqHznphCPRoZoSJUiYyKNNWI6xZAXXk=; b=OtyiS/ZrXJtKFgJLi5DAFopo9myUeHZPlPGJBflNR9ZzBYfeV+RK8C910eEwswOTSk 6+bKfyynr9hOYdBlQIc8H7nmS5xKcRjDl+4qymnfa5lIPAQlywQffOD8qMDqRZ0VrpX3 hSQVHNaQRZExjRZsAEGvxP8gppEv4yqjUdD0Fu1izhK/+uMMKIjs9QIYMEDdVazqW5MH 5NMUf9Wr40fwgY0BVWPOqKadYOY0Iik4qRWrf//5y78rKHkxAgaWjIpazFfDF8kIc52c 9/4vg7yCnJ/cEPs/eQ5zOfoOT9ZnhVIv2k5rY7glyqxquAMzBoVJIel1f01ocepqamap DXzw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=xrSPID2649shYqHznphCPRoZoSJUiYyKNNWI6xZAXXk=; b=seWBIt7uEs+VtkbKJprl8NTXwC1NBHIJJEQgFtU3WLP+ifHruQJFvJwCBy2lhToBCX fIc6danObnRe1ltxLgJG1iHjw0TKCVqt+QIPT5ckt8GtFSN+qbzcYC3LPOaKHNmbvJcT RuCCnG1uIFu6LDv2Hk2yrZglGB6ViPZGaM20ey2nZ3usesm6dRMwXKsOUvs2XmfCT5Rq TKH3L4aZBFV/MfOHE1X/qQ7+2K8G+fq3Tl+wxAg/lUdKUx0mdK8Qoo40uK3S6JZgQ/Zy SXMHJHKfTgU9GNfthbaAnQDqIasrrbDCJ2gEQEmwVeqHsEwxwJ74Qw5oGxM2C+spyNEs BL8w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530lRuHfF3A0Rf6W0v8J0LRWa4RK6i1HBtqNC+mB/ytenxFARVZf spM0CFGGVx5Yi+SJXlI2t/B9F/L3bR8qfkg9lPU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJw4cL9ZdH40XCCsmsVPgqlmv288OMRYvM3Y5noW5EShudQYlbJQmN+O3kxaJi2w8EP+bGxauZEff9cafpchTJo= X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:1547:b0:394:2eec:5d6e with SMTP id f7-20020a05600c154700b003942eec5d6emr6060148wmg.79.1651414156723; Sun, 01 May 2022 07:09:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <57977CE7-DDCC-4861-BBD2-843B9B9F51C2@ronnatalie.com> In-Reply-To: <57977CE7-DDCC-4861-BBD2-843B9B9F51C2@ronnatalie.com> From: Kenneth Goodwin Date: Sun, 1 May 2022 10:09:07 -0400 Message-ID: To: Ron Natalie Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000030480c05ddf3d251" Subject: Re: [TUHS] First Unix-like OSes not derived from AT&T code? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --00000000000030480c05ddf3d251 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I actually purchased several copies of Coherent when it was first released and used it as printer servers for a bunch of inexpensive Centronics based printers. lpd based server to server transfers. Took the printing burden off the main systems. Someone came out with a network based print spooler box (Milan ??) later on which I switched over to after MW passed into obscurity. On Sun, May 1, 2022, 7:46 AM Ron Natalie wrote: > Mark Williams Coherent was one I worked with on the PC many years ago. > > > On May 1, 2022, at 11:34, Andrew Warkentin wrote= : > > > > =EF=BB=BFWhat was the first "clone" functional Unix (i.e. an OS not der= ived > > from genetic Unix code but highly compatible with genetic Unix)? Idris > > is the earliest such OS of which I am aware (at least AFAIK it's not a > > genetic Unix), but was it actually the first? Similarly, which was the > > first "outer Unix-like" system (i.e. one with strong Unix influence > > but significantly incompatible with functional Unix)? Off the top of > > my head the earliest such system I can think of is Thoth (which > > predates Idris by almost 2 years), but again I'm not sure if it was > > actually the first. > > --00000000000030480c05ddf3d251 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I actually purchased several copies of Coherent when it w= as first released and used it as printer servers for a bunch of inexpensive= Centronics based printers. lpd based server to server transfers. Took the = printing burden off the main systems. Someone came out with a network based= print spooler box (Milan ??) later on which I switched over to after MW pa= ssed into obscurity.


On Sun, May 1, 2022, 7:46 A= M Ron Natalie <ron@ronnatalie.com<= /a>> wrote:
Mark Williams Cohere= nt was one I worked with on the PC many years ago.

> On May 1, 2022, at 11:34, Andrew Warkentin <andreww591@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BFWhat was the first "clone" functional Unix (i.e. an= OS not derived
> from genetic Unix code but highly compatible with genetic Unix)? Idris=
> is the earliest such OS of which I am aware (at least AFAIK it's n= ot a
> genetic Unix), but was it actually the first? Similarly, which was the=
> first "outer Unix-like" system (i.e. one with strong Unix in= fluence
> but significantly incompatible with functional Unix)? Off the top of > my head the earliest such system I can think of is Thoth (which
> predates Idris by almost 2 years), but again I'm not sure if it wa= s
> actually the first.

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