From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 5267 invoked from network); 28 Nov 2022 21:01:15 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 28 Nov 2022 21:01:15 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9276D41BF0; Tue, 29 Nov 2022 07:01:06 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-wr1-f46.google.com (mail-wr1-f46.google.com [209.85.221.46]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C19F541BDB for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2022 07:01:02 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-wr1-f46.google.com with SMTP id bs21so18968831wrb.4 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2022 13:01:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=epmeKZtipxfh5BcgNnLMGaHi8bhAsQYMkNX6EiMUTA8=; b=OWSMqAZppVrjrvUF/0qvu/XEAs1aTcSmrlxozEkkVWv83weZBwGAMwlb6yEtwruNWr 5MWp0Qx9ZwujVJ98nZUe+oyX4aNjwR+FBGpD5rf+0VlMVt22I+v0obC7rDfuxiqqpJbR L92xPe0ceoy5Ng9Bq+qVxCRILaKFWcNoCMrMUHEYKx7Lw1JH834zPSPMyIVAqVOcMNAb UGbRZ4jLjTPgSrwtNeWJndTs/SQLKdSC4FdxC+4d3VdBs5SNLU3XfCSB50qTV83IOm+Q qtLzWZiO7G21roXrL9BrDAdqWDq5hWhf5w3w/zaR9pD3SUzV2pc7m2uuiHhDQkU2EOS9 ExcQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=epmeKZtipxfh5BcgNnLMGaHi8bhAsQYMkNX6EiMUTA8=; b=BVIlNBa5s9WEi3dNNAYA6PZXzjeHmLbV21KsKa/+H6JigXFA3iBJBDnoEwz7C1SQbd Ny358JUqu/TA3tRsgeAkOAfi6ty+WIBG4fJf+ggty5Dc6VKs077Y0LnueHU2+ZIlxwiL Ja8WAu3S51OL3WBIsCGkz6kgqZPwCa8kbictz4YBPBwaYowMdwmKfbUis29vHosaICwb o9AsYqYX8f219leDyJdCgk0dKjqsqflfFSbQbbHFbl7KSaa319F/fq81eRBoIsFJZq6M 2dOK9rQBvyTz5NOH/EZwdvra6oyA/SFcvFI7pfrU7HPFBxvM58zZ02MACxPyoh0IGdO4 479Q== X-Gm-Message-State: ANoB5pn6P8pZlWDysszQ7bioP4Az2iTthRb6aJ+oPtVdf+tdV2/Y7l2M s+iK4fnYOk9hGlnQZoJBcQKGn2ZsK61cMlonVSw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA0mqf6pAjmRzpbEwO3A9wbYIW1xgCuIaHkP39eFuP4pPjJmtF2F4e16ikYLuJFBTI2ftNMxaB7jAPvdQ83h87w8P4E= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:6646:0:b0:242:164b:c58a with SMTP id f6-20020a5d6646000000b00242164bc58amr4881907wrw.45.1669669201007; Mon, 28 Nov 2022 13:00:01 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8f278bf8-de57-4e77-a3b8-d007d7c3a446@app.fastmail.com> <20221126191827.GV18011@mcvoy.com> <764dda08-f358-4c74-8056-ef8fc80bcaac@app.fastmail.com> <20221126232323.GX18011@mcvoy.com> <20221127001714.GY18011@mcvoy.com> <202211270443.2AR4hofO067295@ultimate.com> <0EB50C1F-D226-40BF-8F42-43CB988B036E@jctaylor.com> In-Reply-To: <0EB50C1F-D226-40BF-8F42-43CB988B036E@jctaylor.com> From: Kenneth Goodwin Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2022 15:59:50 -0500 Message-ID: To: William Corcoran Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000009e56da05ee8e2700" Message-ID-Hash: RSBDB56J4J7OSHHMKHBR7CKRZAI2CKX5 X-Message-ID-Hash: RSBDB56J4J7OSHHMKHBR7CKRZAI2CKX5 X-MailFrom: kennethgoodwin56@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Reaction to the 3B2 at Bell Labs List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --0000000000009e56da05ee8e2700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That must be the 300 B superhive model CPU On Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 1:54 PM William Corcoran wrote: > I have a 3b2/300. Anytime you run a command that is compute bound, like > factoring a large prime number, the CPU buzzes! > > > > Bill Corcoran > > > > > > On Nov 27, 2022, at 9:52 AM, John P. Linderman wrote: > > =EF=BB=BF > > [EXTERNAL] > > > We were "gifted" a 3B2, as in "take this and use it!". I ran a "ps" > command in single user mode, and it took 20 seconds to run. > Our machine names were themed around bird names, so we christened the 3B2 > "junco". Our director said we had to get along, > so we renamed it "jay". But everyone knew what the J stood for. The 3B2 > served as a doorstop. > > On Sat, Nov 26, 2022 at 11:44 PM Phil Budne wrote: > >> Larry McVoy wrote: >> > I read the Wikipedia page on the 9000. It's sad that the 9000 >> > wasn't cancelled when they had better alternatives. >> >> In an oral history Bob Supnik described Ken Olsen couldn't get his >> head around the fact that the NVAX chip could equal the 9000: >> >> @2:59:45 in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DT3tcCBHRIfU >> >> In part 2, Bob described how then DEC VP Gordon Bell having earlier >> predicted when the microprocessor performance curve would cross over >> minis and mainframes: >> >> @1:51:45 in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DT3tcCBHRIfU >> >> He also talks about how the company couldn't command the bsame gross >> margins as it did in the VAX era. >> > > > THIS IS AN EXTERNAL EMAIL -- This email was sent from someone OUTSIDE of > the NSM Insurance Group email system. PLEASE USE CAUTION WHEN REVIEWING > THIS EMAIL. > > --0000000000009e56da05ee8e2700 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That must be the 300 B superhive model CPU

On Mon, Nov 28,= 2022, 1:54 PM William Corcoran <wlc= @jctaylor.com> wrote:
I have a 3b2/300.=C2=A0 Anytime you run a command that is compute bound, li= ke factoring a large prime number, the CPU buzzes!



Bill Corcoran


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On Nov 27, 2022, at 9:52 AM, John P. Linderman <jpl.j= pl@gmail.com> wrote:

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We were "gifted= " a 3B2, as in "take this and use it!". I ran a "ps&quo= t; command in single user mode, and it took 20 seconds to run.
Our machine names we= re themed around bird names, so we christened the 3B2 "junco". Ou= r director said we had to get along,
so we renamed it &qu= ot;jay". But everyone knew what the J stood for. The 3B2 served as a d= oorstop.

On Sat, Nov 26, 2022 at 11:44 PM Phil= Budne <phil@ultimate.com> wrote:
Larry McVoy wrote:
> I read the Wikipedia page on the 9000.=C2=A0 It's sad that the 900= 0
> wasn't cancelled when they had better alternatives.

In an oral history Bob Supnik described Ken Olsen couldn't get his
head around the fact that the NVAX chip could equal the 9000:

@2:59:45 in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DT3tcCBHRIfU

In part 2, Bob described how then DEC VP Gordon Bell having earlier
predicted when the microprocessor performance curve would cross over
minis and mainframes:

@1:51:45 in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DT3tcCBHRIfU

He also talks about how the company couldn't command the bsame gross margins as it did in the VAX era.


THIS IS AN EXTERNAL EMAIL -- This email was sent from someone OUTSIDE of th= e NSM Insurance Group email system. PLEASE USE CAUTION WHEN REVIEWING THIS = EMAIL.
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