From: Liam Proven <lproven@gmail.com>
To: tuhs@tuhs.org
Subject: [TUHS] Re: AIX moved into maintainance mode
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 15:42:38 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMTenCEVfD=HcK92VANbfx-irwJxOp4qVgmLwUbrNPbZhhAJyg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230118145554.3B27F20145@orac.inputplus.co.uk>
On Wed, 18 Jan 2023 at 15:56, Ralph Corderoy <ralph@inputplus.co.uk> wrote:
>
> The fine article ends with
*Heh*
> ‘Which means that the last officially trademarked commercial UNIX™ is
> Apple's macOS 13, which underneath the proprietary GUI layer is mostly
> an open source OS called Darwin anyway. The kernel, XNU, is based on
> Mach with an in-kernel "Unix server" derived from FreeBSD...’
> — https://www.theregister.com/2023/01/17/unix_is_dead/
Indeed it does. I wrote it. Thanks to Arnold for posting it.
I am getting some grief on Twitter too for "omitting" FreeBSD. I
didn't, but the BSDs don't fit either definition of "Unix". The
pre-1993 one being "based on AT&T code" -- after all, BSD (4.4 Lite r2
was it? Before my time!) -- went to a lot of effort to eliminate AT&T
code. The post-'93 definition, after Novell donated the trademark to
the Open Group, is "passed Open Group testing". Nobody has the time or
the inclination to pay, and indeed, why should they?
I hope to return to the subject of the BSDs in general on the Reg in future.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-01-19 14:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-01-18 9:43 [TUHS] " arnold
2023-01-18 14:46 ` [TUHS] " Phil Budne
2023-01-18 14:55 ` Ralph Corderoy
2023-01-19 14:42 ` Liam Proven [this message]
2023-01-19 15:04 ` Warner Losh
2023-01-19 15:15 ` Liam Proven
2023-01-18 15:13 ` arnold
2023-01-18 15:14 ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-18 16:10 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-01-18 16:19 ` Stuff Received
2023-01-18 16:19 ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-18 16:27 ` [TUHS] Maintenance mode on AIX Ron Natalie
2023-01-18 16:38 ` [TUHS] " Larry McVoy
2023-01-18 16:59 ` Clem Cole
2023-01-18 17:08 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-01-18 17:21 ` Will Senn
2023-01-18 19:50 ` David Barto
2023-01-19 14:25 ` Liam Proven
2023-01-18 20:34 ` Arno Griffioen via TUHS
2023-01-18 20:50 ` Brad Spencer
2023-01-18 16:36 ` [TUHS] Re: AIX moved into maintainance mode Will Senn
2023-01-18 16:42 ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-18 16:57 ` Will Senn
2023-01-18 17:16 ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-18 17:25 ` Will Senn
2023-01-18 21:09 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-01-18 21:18 ` Kevin Bowling
2023-01-19 1:13 ` Joseph Holsten
2023-01-19 15:04 ` Liam Proven
2023-01-18 19:25 ` Dave Horsfall
2023-01-19 15:02 ` Liam Proven
2023-01-19 15:12 ` arnold
2023-01-19 17:46 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2023-01-19 18:24 ` Doug McIntyre
2023-01-19 19:44 ` Chet Ramey
2023-01-20 13:09 ` Liam Proven
2023-01-20 14:37 ` Harald Arnesen
2023-01-18 16:48 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-01-19 0:54 ` Adam Thornton
2023-01-19 1:09 ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-20 18:38 ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-01-20 18:57 ` Dan Cross
2023-01-20 19:48 ` John Cowan
2023-01-20 20:04 ` Dan Cross
2023-01-20 19:08 ` Kevin Bowling
2023-01-19 1:17 ` Marc Donner
2023-01-19 1:26 ` Joseph Holsten
2023-01-20 15:53 ` Marc Donner
2023-01-19 14:45 ` Liam Proven
2023-01-19 15:05 ` Dan Cross
2023-01-19 16:59 ` Bakul Shah
2023-01-19 19:33 ` [TUHS] The death of general purpose computers, was - " Will Senn
2023-01-19 20:09 ` [TUHS] " segaloco via TUHS
2023-01-19 20:59 ` Rich Morin
2023-01-19 21:11 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-01-20 13:30 ` Liam Proven
2023-01-20 15:51 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-01-20 15:56 ` Rich Morin
2023-01-20 16:24 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-01-20 18:21 ` G. Branden Robinson
2023-01-20 18:33 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-01-18 18:58 ` [TUHS] " Steve Nickolas
2023-01-19 8:02 ` arnold
2023-01-19 15:04 ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-19 15:20 ` Warner Losh
2023-01-19 15:23 ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-19 16:40 ` Dan Cross
2023-01-19 16:58 ` Warner Losh
2023-01-19 23:16 ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-01-20 0:37 ` Warner Losh
2023-01-20 1:22 ` Steve Nickolas
2023-01-19 17:02 ` Steve Nickolas
2023-01-19 17:19 ` Adam Thornton
2023-01-19 18:22 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-01-19 19:07 ` Kevin Bowling
2023-01-19 21:08 ` Joseph Holsten
2023-01-19 20:01 ` [TUHS] The era of general purpose computing (Re: " Bakul Shah
2023-01-19 22:23 ` [TUHS] " Luther Johnson
2023-01-20 1:10 ` John Cowan
2023-01-20 1:15 ` Luther Johnson
2023-01-21 18:12 ` arnold
2023-01-21 18:43 ` Luther Johnson
2023-01-19 22:29 ` Rich Salz
2023-01-19 22:39 ` Luther Johnson
2023-01-19 22:41 ` Luther Johnson
2023-01-19 22:40 ` Jon Steinhart
2023-01-19 23:24 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-01-19 23:44 ` Rich Salz
2023-01-19 23:51 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-01-20 0:20 ` [TUHS] owner maintenance (Re: " Charles H Sauer (he/him)
2023-01-20 0:36 ` [TUHS] " Larry McVoy
2023-01-20 0:47 ` [TUHS] " Yeechang Lee
2023-01-20 0:55 ` George Michaelson
2023-01-20 1:05 ` Rich Salz
2023-01-20 1:10 ` George Michaelson
2023-01-20 2:27 ` Dan Cross
2023-01-18 21:20 ` [TUHS] " Theodore Ts'o
2023-01-18 21:27 ` Kevin Bowling
2023-01-19 2:17 ` Jim Carpenter
2023-01-19 21:15 ` Will Senn
2023-01-19 21:34 ` Drew Diver
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