From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 5031 invoked from network); 19 Dec 2022 11:49:07 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 19 Dec 2022 11:49:07 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B21141B98; Mon, 19 Dec 2022 21:49:00 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-il1-f169.google.com (mail-il1-f169.google.com [209.85.166.169]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE5D341B93 for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2022 21:48:56 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-il1-f169.google.com with SMTP id z9so4559637ilu.10 for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2022 03:48:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=RHabHhthHWf+0GNzVctXei5uGHD30uR57231Rq3QfhA=; b=o3yd1cYfugbqdQ1DzGqoW4qZIsKCoM5Q1kjqq4l4m6dGNmapXZ9yv9QZ67bUMWbso/ 5pP0mj4Du6DGkmlnozVf0bEXEskgT54funV3Z0OycDHYNqJklMqKB/Zra3ibYi8ngjMt YmXrJi8+4bsIkmVa0LS3UnDc5AegzCXguoJ0YrD34ninzJGLuzSNLmOmNxk0I5GMz9C9 cOYyKxacKEYMjzrU7G5R0YdIthfnS0VdddB++SGUXHogs8bqmvGy53xlwyvO7VjHtjtT L8omYaFHDOKmksODHyYeOI+AVevzKey1Kz9yUVN1Wjo70Juo8tbj3lhc84//jDCWXGhs yikg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=RHabHhthHWf+0GNzVctXei5uGHD30uR57231Rq3QfhA=; b=f0C69HApJbiNAXWeoCn2E7dugiSXWGPU5J1c7qhazVfdg/1JM2ufVfNzxY5+6k5ieT ZyrbpHS6Lipce2N2cVr4nz56JPtBW99XcmQY3Gw2umhcMMc18lVGPYQ5ijeC6Af1hmrr E/rb+NcvRKQ7wIPuAhxB0Ng135HVzxpCGXAGLga9m75yARqb5RJmlMzfr+bJKsC2ihKQ q5B/CDBmP512twif90bCe+gGK4jDNU81zLgrpEkXxFp1TiCzRsQm44w6ZLZ4gDMbKsAU 1beup9e9HAHRhx1rL5EFBDgtPmGknbAuYX21o9UfTxkn8CQvI0PcewSVI0IL00GEeBTc Cb5w== X-Gm-Message-State: ANoB5pnVMb+hXan997HphqGUbkM1ztHXiD2iajikse8Ww+lduFvs29Rj 716Y4SvlS2FMAxUsdE7Gz9TtVLyAUZrDJfQqDLL3Y6nn19o= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA0mqf4Jz2PIUWG3m3XB3jPnr5NkPYE00noyrXm5hPgH7aXm7YJI7vY/kZzhxqGNv3HH0NfKMsjlTEvH0W640vXp+r8= X-Received: by 2002:a92:280b:0:b0:304:cde1:651e with SMTP id l11-20020a92280b000000b00304cde1651emr2007120ilf.30.1671450475607; Mon, 19 Dec 2022 03:47:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20221211200327.GC8801@mcvoy.com> <8F5B431B-3789-42C7-8E34-0B6A417B41CF@iitbombay.org> <20221212033453.GE8801@mcvoy.com> <20221213133726.GA20511@mcvoy.com> <20221214010531.GK20511@mcvoy.com> <018ac308-b67f-4e5a-4ae5-03f492900847@gmail.com> <37f4dd4e-c8b9-cd91-b4a5-aaa6cf3839ec@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: Liam Proven Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2022 12:47:44 +0100 Message-ID: To: tuhs@tuhs.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Message-ID-Hash: SHVUCA6PAGIZRHU6CFYAP2EWJLBHD6DE X-Message-ID-Hash: SHVUCA6PAGIZRHU6CFYAP2EWJLBHD6DE X-MailFrom: lproven@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Clever code (was Re: Re: Stdin Redirect in Cu History/Alternatives? List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 18 Dec 2022 at 16:08, Stuff Received wrote: > > The BB10 i/f was designed by TAT > (https://www.engadget.com/2010-12-02-rim-buys-tat-blackberry-ui-in-danger-of-becoming-awesome.html). Oh, fascinating. I did not know that -- thank you! > > I owned a Blackberry Passport. A lovely device with a lovely OS... but > > too late and it flopped. > > Quite so. One of the slightly stranger things in the smartphone OS space recently, for me, has been watching Huawei's response to the licensing fight with Google. Huawei now promotes its devices as running "Harmony OS" with a lot of hot air about microkernels, convergence, cross-platform, blah blah. It's nothing of the kind. It's AOSP, the open-source core of Android, with their own skin on top. I don't think Huawei has the tech skills to build a new OS as it's claimed it has... But it could make some of those claims come true if it licensed BB10 and spent a bit on updating it. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lproven@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lproven@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven UK: (+44) 7939-087884 ~ Czech [+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal]: (+420) 702-829-053