From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 26482 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2023 15:17:24 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 19 Jan 2023 15:17:24 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A38F42461; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 01:17:01 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-il1-f182.google.com (mail-il1-f182.google.com [209.85.166.182]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5878F4245D for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 01:16:57 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-il1-f182.google.com with SMTP id i1so1304745ilu.8 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 07:16:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=P3QpNInt1xXIDW9RRlNXVJUiBGPiuItLSoiA4ZWURGk=; b=qfVqQJx6WJFowKVgQdfwMrXBGig5honOrbtP4gOhKHnQhdN/xJaq/1/FnqZJsWKhj3 niyM9ZT19xUrKhcdiQDHza+PRww4fltR88zS9rTuEhuoepWU1Vu56MEtwXmK4IGr3Pfe M+GgfPoV7JIPjs3TsCGveWsKHh5OcmYwIxhnju3VQ82eUByRGSf1CCV6vOhCzqmu63nc n4DejwJ2fyz2tMwdFuqC5EPxc8YX0tLmMziySu7z7qRRpEXD7ph2LNxdmRaTJ4RcC/Kq 0FWKp8+eM8Ww8tgrIlqnD5g84xuW/UDrZbmsIv7XNiGi9kGwZ954c4C+IaJiB2++By59 lH2w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=P3QpNInt1xXIDW9RRlNXVJUiBGPiuItLSoiA4ZWURGk=; b=TQpHEsU+WlVZCsvEHPJA6RqxrDojsf8qdqX1RYI1QXyX84Bbz+KV3sdVPAiBXxSxfC oKHBEsMzyxxRNB7mL6wVwOwlGooetdAp2oyCOcfzMN2PNJjAzmJ1ZVNImXeHBpqfS/Y/ 8hOrAmcx+07jE6mdTP7ljmICx1lZrGLG07Htuc3dvmSRAi4DmdOjmgoKAsrK4f2FSS+d Hao01mmfi5WRqXF/w3uwfC5e9VxX4lK9DwN5NdUt1Ypq/imrwujKAGMgZebwmyHASqGm LOJD1Rw9qDsQvI9P3NTlMcQJ3UvNkaXfDnwaR876CH+8/F+ut7p2lTmwtCweFXFMDn4q onjQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AFqh2kqQ0bwlklTNbnFLVlfXZ0Qg6/LvbYjrdgrlbKLBDStkzl69b0Uz 9rOY5XmNN/qlPCpC0bTvIsft/7KLAZc/vlcl69doe8daMb0KUw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMrXdXvuvuyGRh0omVjOvpu15rqIIrrkhBzqv/1vmSfAJc1PTkbFbLLhpGU4+TfVr7UJiVM1+8rUgVOgGQWUlt6XnGs= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6e02:b29:b0:30d:979a:ae21 with SMTP id e9-20020a056e020b2900b0030d979aae21mr1137513ilu.319.1674141356370; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 07:15:56 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <202301180943.30I9hrOw030485@freefriends.org> <202301181446.30IEkSNt050612@ultimate.com> <20230118145554.3B27F20145@orac.inputplus.co.uk> In-Reply-To: From: Liam Proven Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 16:15:45 +0100 Message-ID: To: tuhs@tuhs.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Message-ID-Hash: CI3EJJYVAZPRAMRM4F2326UCJP4TMYJ3 X-Message-ID-Hash: CI3EJJYVAZPRAMRM4F2326UCJP4TMYJ3 X-MailFrom: lproven@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: AIX moved into maintainance mode List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 19 Jan 2023 at 16:03, Warner Losh wrote: > More importantly, though, it retained much of the structure of the original AT&T code, especailly in the kernel. So if you understood the BSD code, you'd understand the System V code and vice versa at least at a gross level. I believe I was in the audience for your FOSDEM talk on this matter. :-) >> I hope to return to the subject of the BSDs in general on the Reg in future. > > That would be cool... FWIW, in the last year, I've reviewed FreeBSD, OpenBSD (twice), NetBSD and DragonflyBSD. The Dragonfly team contacted me and owned the problems I had. They don't test against VirtualBox. For the others, various admirers complained in the comments, or by email, or by social media, or combinations thereof, and nobody but nobody went "oh, you're right, that _is_ a problem, we should look at that." There's an ongoing "spirited discussion" ;-) on Twitter right now with me, Frank Leonhardt, and Eugene Markow. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lproven@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lproven@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven UK: (+44) 7939-087884 ~ Czech [+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal]: (+420) 702-829-053