From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id b36974e3 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 2019 05:32:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 12FDA93D68; Sat, 20 Jul 2019 15:32:55 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CE2093D1F; Sat, 20 Jul 2019 15:32:21 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="c03KYbP9"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 1B18C93D07; Sat, 20 Jul 2019 15:32:19 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-vs1-f51.google.com (mail-vs1-f51.google.com [209.85.217.51]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 611BA93D06 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 2019 15:32:18 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-vs1-f51.google.com with SMTP id v129so22865789vsb.11 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 22:32:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc :content-transfer-encoding; bh=MGVSuJKA1bJO9F00+HP1jNQPXJGOpk52Zlb3p0tfLAI=; b=c03KYbP9I1u+3HDqfiouncmd/a+NXuYE2fr/GuMTE1tNuvxMvwRrMKOPIEImFb/M/h jgnWdUE/GGPJMQB3QZ4z7bJ0hLHpJEIX0rfILlnKdh0jaPv0X0+lB6Q5FohRZiB0ToGR /PjCWBycXfkeeMDySw7f7BqXagzNpyDOEDhAtrXd+XStFif89XW2JbcnW8Up1rCPG8CS 4+xicp9o3eru7Tq39Soo9nM1CjjgmPTOtwpuNDNMisMiPDwYgE3geD4MnsER+i6OM513 SkGd2Yux+UKTfQxEWMHFva9sf42PqmZ8SpcYG1+y3xt/dXqFLFZpVg4781zhhDLDj9zp lA8w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc :content-transfer-encoding; bh=MGVSuJKA1bJO9F00+HP1jNQPXJGOpk52Zlb3p0tfLAI=; b=FXhOlgd4YTXW0WfFEpOot52UjBtPvvDHSivjUnkgiSnpcnmghTJE+yXBZppvw8tedF ARnclD4zbIjWr01rejehlr1b8tgp1Rte0iZF4pD2Bpc8k4WNPT8GGVFKjoOEqZOOMCSV ALbXAMky5JOf6upCOCd7BJQOatJKfml7U5fvTBKe2x9j1QB/PSQEnrayRS/XC5Kp55xj xZLL8zRXL+IeVB0HnIyLKessgJLt1rlgBBU1J5ockht0gjwiP1tbAqxu5cezQVemXh0j W6oIVf7ZlYEl5AvM/+atY79pfK8PHX/2B4XbaHcD47Zs10ZZsf8+KqoXrl4k/DuO8uYO 1IkQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWZ17U81r4Z04AToyFAT2j9tmeFrgxi9bfX3cnJhJiwmWI4XTah 1nucU1wk/juedYCGFLWrdVOp4bbZk/m+0BHzRkmd8Rg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxdC7GHZmJUe7CguT0gn/IMhbR9SLYMOxcfDe0IWa7F8lOhAC+jtMbJc/eqhzoED5RoO1ZB6Ms9ktmf/N/h9uU= X-Received: by 2002:a67:f8d4:: with SMTP id c20mr34592786vsp.239.1563600737262; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 22:32:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:ab0:45f4:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 22:32:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Rudi Blom Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2019 12:32:16 +0700 Message-ID: To: rrigo@alchemistowl.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [TUHS] Old 386 Unix Versions, was: Re: PCC for the i386 X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" >Does anyone have documentation or history for European efforts in the Unix= -like operating systems? For example there was Bull=E2=80=99s Chorus which = I seem to recall was based on Mach or a competing microkernel (it was a ver= y long time ago and I used it for no mare than about two hours..). >I am rather saddened by the fact that there is so much about all the Unix = (and not only >Unix) history of computing in the USA and so very little in = Europe. I wouldn=E2=80=99t even know >where to start, to be honest, all I h= ave as a history is the Italian side from my father and his other mad frien= ds and colleagues in Milan. So little of it is recorded, never mind written= down. In the 80-tisch I worked at Philips Data Systems in Apeldoorn, the Netherlands. Not in Development, but in System Support. Philips was working on a System V.3 based UNIX running on Motorola 68000 CPUs in a P9X00 server. Called MPX as in Multi-Processor UNIX. The Multi part refers to having an Ethernet, X25 and SDLC board running a tailored version of the OS to offload the main CPU. See for example https://www.cbronline.com/news/better_late_philips_enters_the_uk_unix_marke= t/ https://www.cbronline.com/news/philips_ready_with_68030_models_for_its_p900= 0_unix_workstation_family Later Philips moved to i386 with a 'unknown version' based UNIX. Division was bought by DEC (some say sold off by Philips) in 1991 and we moved to DEC's choice of SCO UNIX. The 'intelligent comm boards were ported and still running the separate OS though. Unfortunately I never had any of that OS type of source and my paper archive was left behind. Only have some small higher level test stuff and my mail archive. For a while I was "rudi blom" , later rudi blom"@apd.mts