From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: imp@bsdimp.com (Warner Losh) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2017 20:09:18 -0700 Subject: [TUHS] SunOS vs Linux In-Reply-To: <20170107025829.GH99823@eureka.lemis.com> References: <20170107025829.GH99823@eureka.lemis.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 7:58 PM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > On Friday, 6 January 2017 at 9:27:36 -0500, Clem Cole wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 10:56 PM, Dan Cross wrote: >> >>> Perhaps an interesting area of speculation is, "what would the world have >>> looked like if USL v BSDi hadn't happened *and* SunOS was opened to the >>> world?" I think in that parallel universe, Linux wouldn't have made it >>> particularly far: absent the legal angle, what would the incentive had been >>> to work on something that was striving to basically be Unix, when really >>> good Unix was already available? >> >>> I agree. > > I think that if SunOS 4 had been released to the world at the right > time, the free BSDs wouldn't have happened in the way they did either; > they would have evolved intimately coupled with SunOS. With the right license (BSD), I'd go so far as to saying there'd be no BSD 4.4, or if there was, it would have been rebased from the SunOS base... There were discussions between CSRG and Sun about Sun donating it's reworked VM and VFS to Berkeley to replace the Mach VM that was in there... Don't know the scope of these talks, or if they included any of the dozens of other areas that Sun improved from its BSD 4.3 base... The talks fell apart over the value of the code, if the rumors I've heard are correct. Warner