From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id b06c3efe for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2019 19:41:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 367E49BF49; Fri, 6 Dec 2019 05:41:31 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD929B57D; Fri, 6 Dec 2019 05:41:17 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.i=@bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.b="uP4PBWtw"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 48BD99B57D; Fri, 6 Dec 2019 05:41:15 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qt1-f178.google.com (mail-qt1-f178.google.com [209.85.160.178]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B2BEC93D35 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2019 05:41:14 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qt1-f178.google.com with SMTP id j5so4656159qtq.9 for ; Thu, 05 Dec 2019 11:41:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=fm1YM4vGks4kv5b2Ccn7cri88qPHzf0mivN3kZnm5jg=; b=uP4PBWtwbfr8vlkTysJItvEBvHJ552RYwbgSbX6udCXDB/WSLenp+OvI0VzzEsQhiw TDO4Efdpe0agKlzR85XuKU0dTnNSU3xWLkp5DvFSui67OuI0CbZa3eeq+YGfvq+LOd0l 4Otc8ufut/jZYyN9SgKt0bW0VjLNZASthe0yzhH6hA7nH72TV/8sze8NotyvyD23uDe7 kgReh1eE75SgIxKSKXw12NJuLKZWUKRbcs5lCq/Ilk9SgCeW0RCN2LSN24y41R8oAZ1k J30O/OfgNmJyY0kVT35WtC5iWCv8LqscQ+7Q1V3cBcHavdjfsEyvLrgHp1ZrAYAXUFK+ KtEg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=fm1YM4vGks4kv5b2Ccn7cri88qPHzf0mivN3kZnm5jg=; b=aGv024SrQU4zHBlJsWuIbZUZlpamtG53nUi4LK4+rnDCCPryrEQB4LqwEP/DxN8pXi oEdcKOegYGyTdhaFhPGuT5aj77RmqbQjRlqo6KpNIarzecs63GgkCQnId+K62WJQA3ql /KGMCjYwP8440LE8uIQh6AwO9fp8q8d2NgOD2RY9zA3neVvPzjVmZD2JubH0FL9PhhhJ vGp2bcqsDag+kmdscgAVvj9z8KwM41jrp9ZYmrnHeDcZmcvtEtHx40XLpxmkuZ0/VL7n 5utd2RU5WwxOrVsmKuSeMgIhgVVq+mpGQLGJg026Uwc+tZh/BKJW/Eek9gZ6jE7RaKs/ nm6Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVaDeQC4lx1LLf67o44t3MipnXslxjq0GWR+TXNkMk/bmtJyzu3 vlatoeg7bwDuj/UimqTrfsCflX6SQd3GHVCCjq7RBw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzuuhr+rt/Np/xv9K+T0+o/VutYFuSGs0bgEqSoBTVhiB/m8ScAlCKeDN9pkCySRUrRkJjm9GLguUxys/rpXwY= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:67d0:: with SMTP id r16mr9232497qtp.187.1575574873565; Thu, 05 Dec 2019 11:41:13 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <698E9378-80A6-48F2-8B46-389B4A90ECD9@planet.nl> In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2019 12:41:02 -0700 Message-ID: To: Clem Cole Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000a8092a0598fa1cc0" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Origins of PPP X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list , Paul Ruizendaal Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000a8092a0598fa1cc0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 9:40 AM Clem Cole wrote: > What was common was the SLIP line discipline code under the covers, but > how the line got set up to start running it was different. The original > SLIP 'kit' from Harvard/MIT lacked anything like PPPD to start and was sort > of ad hoc. I think originally it used a program called 'chat' that had been > pulled out uucico that set things up then exec'ed the SLIP stuff; but > chat(1) may have been round 2 or 3. I've forgotten the name of the > original daemon, I bet it you look in the Usenet archives from 82-84 and > look for 'SLIP' you find a couple of things. > There never was a slipd, at least in this time frame. The chat program would login to the remote system, start SLIP on the remote end, then run a program that effectively put the slip line discipline into place and then maybe did an ifconfig. It was hit dinosaur over head with club level of sophistication, if it was that advanced... Warner --000000000000a8092a0598fa1cc0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 9:40 AM Clem C= ole <clemc@ccc.com> wrote:
=C2=A0Wh= at was common was the SLIP line discipline code under the covers, but how t= he line got set up to start running it was different.=C2=A0 The original SL= IP 'kit' from Harvard/MIT lacked anything like PPPD to start and wa= s sort of ad hoc. I think originally it used a program called 'chat'= ; that had been pulled out uucico that set things up then exec'ed=C2=A0= the SLIP stuff; but chat(1) may have been round 2 or 3.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I'v= e forgotten the name of the original daemon, I bet it you look in the Usene= t archives from 82-84 and look for 'SLIP' you find a couple of thin= gs.=C2=A0 =C2=A0

There ne= ver was a slipd, at least in this time frame. The chat program would login = to the remote system, start SLIP on the remote end, then run a program that= effectively put the slip line discipline into place and then maybe did an = ifconfig. It was hit dinosaur over head with club level of sophistication, = if it was that advanced...

Warner
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