From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 29555 invoked from network); 11 Dec 2022 02:27:34 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 11 Dec 2022 02:27:34 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 872AD423C8; Sun, 11 Dec 2022 12:27:28 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ej1-f54.google.com (mail-ej1-f54.google.com [209.85.218.54]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D88C4423C5 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2022 12:27:22 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ej1-f54.google.com with SMTP id qk9so20108259ejc.3 for ; Sat, 10 Dec 2022 18:27:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Fiia7T2QJXo4xaR6KA+AFt0uQFhNnkp/9UmIWZoyQn0=; b=e1vsIRCxC2FBb61VCDee33hRl6VZQReYPLKeTqG84KLGB76bzRF5EGg33SMBe/BNaj yqIoZMCktq6pXvgFzOIGI9Q5hLWR8A/VrQoUgkAZ1XYzZRI6rDQNJTWtLAckfVEcpNNs MaEPThsoblb1quA0YD46csmwpVbQ8V0CY7b9+P8WQx3U/PVEphlfVr5aaPj+2+CULnoY O+HNeeFKwoE9rGBDwYbkrr/1FmlfOIIcrAZDz89L5qe+Rlj4/36L9aIeA3fsn+89JrlO zEONQPYBjiK4pvKtZjb3r808ZXBRuBI+fjxeFSabRnB8+vvzmw/5nESFl6NrZplaRFi1 PbGA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=Fiia7T2QJXo4xaR6KA+AFt0uQFhNnkp/9UmIWZoyQn0=; b=KCZbL4IHIqXFEsfWxU4YaUq2WmrFjQouA/AcHOSozhn59qSJrOlwKrFMd4oBiwEa4G ETIBbkWnoVcWr0hTtEXrycrhe1QI0OIX5Ji/gteUCU+YY1OLsZNkejoiUYNqltQOEyPC gLTHkvl6a/Lnv/Lk16/t4pI7cotBciZjIlZvltV5C5uYtHUsCdSa8me89dUW0uSfwjj5 UlGjIKmTyB6VrdtG1CsVE9RAjpRs+ygN4KHPVYhJRBZn+ktjdIgiWZXZAFCiaiQpRgBO TlNhMiSZDc96NQo5wmNKc+QM73xSayXLx2c1MCJw6LIkDel5DSTMZcZ3KVYiwEjI49XY oxvQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ANoB5pkzOlOI3etI9O9pZV8+ZFs1uyZvCQIZa73d/2wYMnxUWzIIzaEH perYonbLigD7mvl/bekA8bbjlrtRurn/40YYgIChpV1y1I44pA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA0mqf627mwNMpdtucoYjLoKL4p8tCZx3zi3idC2GMY5i9aocgQ5uE8D8W9UTIL4EsGI1qfrrHzDw63D4kicYAAzfIw= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:3e09:b0:7c0:e6d8:3e82 with SMTP id k9-20020a1709063e0900b007c0e6d83e82mr15820056eji.451.1670725581278; Sat, 10 Dec 2022 18:26:21 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20221211021628.GM8801@mcvoy.com> In-Reply-To: <20221211021628.GM8801@mcvoy.com> From: Warner Losh Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2022 19:26:09 -0700 Message-ID: To: Larry McVoy Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ca2ae805ef841c76" Message-ID-Hash: DYC32CQV3GRYDCDMRKM6OWN5EQ6NWNPT X-Message-ID-Hash: DYC32CQV3GRYDCDMRKM6OWN5EQ6NWNPT X-MailFrom: wlosh@bsdimp.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Stdin Redirect in Cu History/Alternatives? List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000ca2ae805ef841c76 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Sat, Dec 10, 2022, 7:16 PM Larry McVoy wrote: > Wow, Kermit is still around? I think the last time I used that was > around 1985. > > Are modems still a thing? > I used it last year... without a modem. Warner > On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 05:42:14PM -0700, Nelson H. F. Beebe wrote: > > Clem Cole mentions kermit in connection with the question raised about > > the uses of the cu utility. > > > > As an FYI, Kermit's author, Frank da Cruz, is preparing a final > > release, version 10.0, and I've been working with him on testing > > builds in numerous environments. There are frequent updates during > > this work, and the latest snapshots can be found at > > > > https://kermitproject.org/ftp/kermit/pretest/ > > > > The x-YYYYMMDD.* bundles do not contain a leading directory, so be > > careful to unpack them in an empty directory. The build relies on a > > lengthy makefile with platform-specific target names, like irix65, > > linux, and solaris11: the leading comments in the makefile provide > > further guidance. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 > - > > - University of Utah > - > > - Department of Mathematics, 110 LCB Internet e-mail: > beebe@math.utah.edu - > > - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@acm.org > beebe@computer.org - > > - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: > http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/ - > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > --- > Larry McVoy Retired to fishing > http://www.mcvoy.com/lm/boat > --000000000000ca2ae805ef841c76 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sat, Dec 10, 2022, 7:16 PM Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com> wrote:
Wow, Kermit is still around?=C2=A0 I think the last time = I used that was
around 1985.

Are modems still a thing?

I used it last year...= without a modem.=C2=A0

= Warner=C2=A0
On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 05:42:14PM -0700, Nelson H. F. Beebe wrote:
> Clem Cole mentions kermit in connection with the question raised about=
> the uses of the cu utility.
>
> As an FYI, Kermit's author, Frank da Cruz, is preparing a final > release, version 10.0, and I've been working with him on testing > builds in numerous environments.=C2=A0 There are frequent updates duri= ng
> this work, and the latest snapshots can be found at
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0https:= //kermitproject.org/ftp/kermit/pretest/
>
> The x-YYYYMMDD.* bundles do not contain a leading directory, so be
> careful to unpack them in an empty directory.=C2=A0 The build relies o= n a
> lengthy makefile with platform-specific target names, like irix65,
> linux, and solaris11: the leading comments in the makefile provide
> further guidance.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------
> - Nelson H. F. Beebe=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Tel: +1 801 581 5254=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 -
> - University of Utah=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 -
> - Department of Mathematics, 110 LCB=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Internet e-mail: be= ebe@math.utah.edu=C2=A0 -
> - 155 S 1400 E RM 233=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0beebe@acm.org=C2=A0 beebe@computer.org -
> - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA=C2=A0 =C2=A0 URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/ -
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