From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 5018 invoked from network); 1 Jan 2023 07:23:09 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 1 Jan 2023 07:23:09 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC4974243C; Sun, 1 Jan 2023 17:23:04 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ed1-f47.google.com (mail-ed1-f47.google.com [209.85.208.47]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9EDE4243B for ; Sun, 1 Jan 2023 17:22:59 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ed1-f47.google.com with SMTP id c17so36074778edj.13 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2022 23:22:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=OmK9cGekvZ+36Cnqjxr6bAhrh2JvJa9eWD9Ol9m7yUc=; b=jVDwxqX6J6cUklbDdAb8ciuCEOUYI4lTtLWijMzqVW3M08xFbTp5EziAQU7A9Z6RhG Nurdn512SNrwTNHWZidj61AOjj6wtWp2xSUEdDExVri1Xg2HPDyox20iXdLqDWuLyPlS yRCi8B+VOU4CcIGFH6D8Q8Qfp5/8BeLs6TN2f9d2DePn45JaXEwVAraL50lpyOJGp+2m oCfylwe1aYqffhVidr/q0XKpwhTkyB/CvWMnwJ891LA5IseM0fLTLF99x2CrCvP/IgAf pc04cqQX5R0eyJbVKBe3d/7ikbtDCaoyPJ5i/zczgp3fPIXMSw6CZ23hfACajRB9ilm0 vlSg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=OmK9cGekvZ+36Cnqjxr6bAhrh2JvJa9eWD9Ol9m7yUc=; b=o9D8evuEUozN4UaBbNK5kNPq9jruBctmjCgJ0427eay5A1c+bzf5BuxuSEC16P+zu7 xTuHV/sBbDoqt78PVIGqI2UZwfvyJQIkDmJHqwM8DSmbq53kDLOqBkmsRnT6XGTr/MIS O376Wu4XcMiM4438Y78tQ9h4i3f7jqCu6G6fq7dnJhQr8yESJPdRE7IvsYZLMNLAz2jx cGCH7nYR5FEdFT08qwcBQ6r9fSFir6S2KMAtyIVNxTJBDGEq4W9hkSi5eKhV2QwCN3zw 83CDSFKAQofxfHFbJfUaFYM+tuSBC5+Rgk/uvHUTA0OfrYb+81mUzKyzKIQwB8Waftgo ofkA== X-Gm-Message-State: AFqh2kqkKdqKKf6u5b0qTE2Oq/6qPvIA2oDut1crxX8+xQUwY00Wbccs F346AmiwFtLNf3W4PsCgsBqFzfb003UVU+eWWzrB2Q== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMrXdXth9IL9l1t+mZpSmvaBOigMLtYzG95KIwya+fwboC4lB5ytelOO5OI/yxLIdsFWQyq/UkFk18qbvDlk27Lmo3U= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:177c:b0:48c:7e42:8483 with SMTP id da28-20020a056402177c00b0048c7e428483mr257896edb.241.1672557718367; Sat, 31 Dec 2022 23:21:58 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <52FB6638-AEFF-4A4F-8C2E-32089D577BA0@planet.nl> <18521483-A73C-4B5F-A76A-6098BD93E9BC@planet.nl> In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2023 00:21:47 -0700 Message-ID: To: Jonathan Gray Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ab861205f12eb0e9" Message-ID-Hash: CYUIYOHUIPFUAPSNUNFF3GH545M6QZKG X-Message-ID-Hash: CYUIYOHUIPFUAPSNUNFF3GH545M6QZKG X-MailFrom: wlosh@bsdimp.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: Paul Ruizendaal , The Eunuchs Hysterical Society , segaloco X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: A few comments on porting the Bourne shell List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000ab861205f12eb0e9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Sun, Jan 1, 2023, 12:11 AM Jonathan Gray wrote: > On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 10:25:49PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > > And at 5:18 he says he had a vax lab with three vaxen and the Lab's vax > > port didn't have virtual memory. Bill Joy with 3BSD which had virtual > > memory. They installed it on the vaxen because they were hitting physical > > memory limits for some of their programs.... > > > > This suggests that the 32V in the TUHS archive is a later one than this > > early port. 3BSD is listed as being released end of 1979... > > It was 4BSD and 1980 according to QCU: > > "In 1980 it was Bill Joy who flew to New Jersey and, together with Steve > Bourne, put 4BSD up in Bell Labs. "We did it overnight," Joy told me. > "We decided to do it about 9 p.m.; people showed up in the morning and a > new os was running. It was pretty amazing." > He said 3BSD in the video.... Interesting... Warner > --000000000000ab861205f12eb0e9 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sun, Jan 1, 2023, 12:11 AM Jonathan Gray <jsg@jsg.id.au> wrote:
On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 10:25:49PM -0700, Warner Losh = wrote:
> And at 5:18 he says he had a vax lab with three vaxen and the Lab'= s vax
> port didn't have virtual memory. Bill Joy with 3BSD which had virt= ual
> memory. They installed it on the vaxen because they were hitting physi= cal
> memory limits for some of their programs....
>
> This suggests that the 32V in the TUHS archive is a later one than thi= s
> early port. 3BSD is listed as being released end of 1979...

It was 4BSD and 1980 according to QCU:

"In 1980 it was Bill Joy who flew to New Jersey and, together with Ste= ve
Bourne, put 4BSD up in Bell Labs. "We did it overnight," Joy told= me.
"We decided to do it about 9 p.m.; people showed up in the morning and= a
new os was running. It was pretty amazing."

He said 3BSD in the video..= .. Interesting...

Warner=
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