From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id fb4aa49a for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 03:50:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id B548693EFA; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 13:50:09 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F4BB93D40; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 13:49:48 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.i=@bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.b="JV3tKA4+"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 42F3F93D28; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 13:49:45 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qk1-f179.google.com (mail-qk1-f179.google.com [209.85.222.179]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9164C93D09 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 13:49:44 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qk1-f179.google.com with SMTP id q203so4353712qke.1 for ; Wed, 09 Oct 2019 20:49:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=8Wa4r20r3Mdksn6SEjyTr0KA97d2tFo0YrwBbyur/Vk=; b=JV3tKA4+q3ZO6sRA8QrACFAiCtNSDEy90yC1B6SWUjaA75nxHGech+UJOhEn4VD36t K3XmIYn3JVtacy27Au749t3mkWNgaU0m7xE0VvkKh0Ykc+6SAnSgNb0/KXXfQtsujDdq 5K6G17bPdMwYsPo9o3C6IzVGYpGPdtm8KAMY0W8TC9RXF/mMVGj0fHeeVaVBraOeyMLF IzqMV1YrIMe2fi4KHRGcnQEP/SP6EvlMI3jNs+6zOd5dXlUgA6tfgfjus7zgZ9jVdweM eGRfl+N/uyT6ms1wpbR2p2NwZbIRI6HPT06pGXJsn5+veEjQNGClBmZC7Seb9yPTEyrw 8pgQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=8Wa4r20r3Mdksn6SEjyTr0KA97d2tFo0YrwBbyur/Vk=; b=A3LA/JeRTeGiKHyaifzks1/TkFj+1OUIjY4+V8foWI5sivwyogeuRTsFNpFOSaspvb MWCx5bcKxIw93fFpSBBbVxkoHPi2zqNhHwD2IsRtBZuY9fHM76cfufJzjj/wufsBW9tE AQCmVHdPbJE7cmhhHrDtKFttAsChF2Uhc/iL5vTY7e+RkJUh8amE32SDSpNu2L1Csuo5 OGzGxbD37SHSu8ZIj1bcni4PudsmtVcYOzNoZYvMJG5XPSB12kAGDnw1Wrxqqq2+0oXf i49bwJQc/4cEtHncfKX5JAda8kShW0n161PR62aCYgAAFvmbeD2VwGZvQ4fUHjBQpBMF 5BDQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVx9kVanysFOlHkmuTa8ol4j1RJfCq7t9xz1TasuHQVKQnCm56z OpmquEE5Qrh6v5/D2fwGDC8AS+D1N/aNNojedI8GmQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxwxEpeoT6QnBZTQD9BI3p5xBpQC4eeNag1ff9JAzYsQa1q+H7lCnXv0/MpAr3CBnJo+3xVMBBMvOQlNpGhcPE= X-Received: by 2002:a37:6347:: with SMTP id x68mr7233127qkb.380.1570679383393; Wed, 09 Oct 2019 20:49:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <201910100331.x9A3VTUH073703@tahoe.cs.Dartmouth.EDU> In-Reply-To: <201910100331.x9A3VTUH073703@tahoe.cs.Dartmouth.EDU> From: Warner Losh Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2019 21:49:31 -0600 Message-ID: To: Doug McIlroy Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000b41a400594864afa" Subject: Re: [TUHS] History talk in Dallas Texas October 10 X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000b41a400594864afa Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Wed, Oct 9, 2019, 9:32 PM Doug McIlroy wrote: > > Was patent department that first used Unix on PDP-11 and roff (~1971) > > same department that would later handle Unix licensing two years later? > > (~1973) > > No. The former was the BTL legal and patent department. The latter was > at AT&T (or perhaps Western Electric) > I know all the later contracts were with western electric... we have them due to the bsd/at&t lawsuit, right? Warner > --000000000000b41a400594864afa Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Wed, Oct 9, 2019, 9:32 PM Doug McIlroy <doug@cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote:
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> Was patent department that first u= sed Unix on PDP-11 and roff (~1971)
> same department that would later handle Unix licensing two years later= ?
> (~1973)

No. The former was the BTL legal and patent department. The latter was
at AT&T (or perhaps Western Electric)

I know all the later contracts wer= e with western electric... we have them due to the bsd/at&t lawsuit, ri= ght?

Warner
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