From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 27413 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2023 05:58:59 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (2600:3c01:e000:146::1) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 12 Dec 2023 05:58:59 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1A0743DCC; Tue, 12 Dec 2023 15:58:55 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-wm1-x32d.google.com (mail-wm1-x32d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::32d]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 71D8243DCB for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2023 15:58:51 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-wm1-x32d.google.com with SMTP id 5b1f17b1804b1-40c3f68b649so29366095e9.0 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2023 21:58:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20230601.gappssmtp.com; s=20230601; t=1702360730; x=1702965530; darn=tuhs.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=5WpE9xkMKbRUXq23Y/GQf8HqNNkwZWfg38nnNTsXleQ=; b=yQMHJfx3iPBBarmZmwi5VPSL3GqcSddOA9SwC/HBMdmZu4c1rvzFzBMfE58tXGpCYe rPTa5F8FXpNv4b3sg3VuP/unumeOBV+UkN10dB0cW+Mj13DoYeujMsfNCHElgFMQXzwU 1PYaYVPJvmqUqHmP61OgyCCzGCFTqovJcfvlNmGOQrGPvVetupbACzh672xhhN3WOjCE tMiARnGpZGz32qTzfGast0CQNmRw9f0L8TifMbhOYQ69hzbVPMwwP1NrSLcnWFgGsZ7X oxEXgwcsP9imc63M9adhB0Ks8EFZXBpE7tVuh6e4V/5OtdzTKdrKHumx782aV9scpMei GgUg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1702360730; x=1702965530; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=5WpE9xkMKbRUXq23Y/GQf8HqNNkwZWfg38nnNTsXleQ=; b=o2Nzj2vqHGfMUr5AczgmuUJzD3jdBGSolvm0BR2XGK2bocw0qoia+yt1Q4C0MFetjs /tMJ83twPdE7AgNNj9GxiJzhchDHjvVbOFOTIcaT/u5NvCef1KNcwsEZswmN4X0tffwH IgQKLwMAjTSGn+4HLft5Q807SoiK173dnqJyVu+cXVyYXiVgbpe5kQlakPDfqGp7ayzi 04hRMyPW+f6ltHHfT6Qs/SuOA+Q9wf1/bE7eG4Da0ASw9nx8zdRfCjoXmOwnmIiIlbMJ xVzH+zaU0RucABoHVcxVPorAeBkTD/fPI0cK9rEImjoNp60fcH2thfO1sEuqkDHJH8H4 oGpg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyEcfR6NgF+uKfTjLb3T8cOJQJA1gnZEjSOdq5eSLXTiAklzJla tpimN01P6ozMx3C1MYX6q/Efac5Os6R+rTd6JbgivVWynhfNvh13SPM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHlREL3TzaAmmsHYj2pr98LJpQck7Au9KB6HrXxUDItXs3w84U66tkiJaAFQpcyT9jVhxn+r9/im0CkUN0/Tl8= X-Received: by 2002:a7b:c8cf:0:b0:40c:83f:e2f2 with SMTP id f15-20020a7bc8cf000000b0040c083fe2f2mr1926344wml.59.1702360729656; Mon, 11 Dec 2023 21:58:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2023 22:58:37 -0700 Message-ID: To: Ken Thompson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000923986060c49bebf" Message-ID-Hash: ENGOICRVTEF7DMOWN6M674LQSGWXXXHF X-Message-ID-Hash: ENGOICRVTEF7DMOWN6M674LQSGWXXXHF X-MailFrom: wlosh@bsdimp.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: =?UTF-8?B?UGV0ZXIgV2VpbmJlcmdlciAo5rip5Y2a5qC8KQ==?= , segaloco , The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Sad news: Bell Labs leaving Murray Hill. List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000923986060c49bebf Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Why ? Pranksters or is there some application that benefits from left hand screwed light bulbs? Warner On Mon, Dec 11, 2023, 10:55 PM Ken Thompson wrote: > there was a room with left-hand screw > 100 watt light bulbs and sockets. > > > On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 6:36=E2=80=AFPM Peter Weinberger (=E6=B8=A9=E5=8D= =9A=E6=A0=BC) via TUHS < > tuhs@tuhs.org> wrote: > >> The protons must have decayed by now. >> >> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 8:25=E2=80=AFPM ron minnich = wrote: >> >>> is "PJW in magnets" still there, I wonder. >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 5:06=E2=80=AFPM segaloco via TUHS wrote: >>> >>>> While my gut says not likely, I'm holding out hope that Nokia is keen >>>> on ensuring someone does a historical sweep of the premises before all= is >>>> said and done. You never know what might be sitting forgotten in a cl= oset >>>> somewhere...a lot of history has gone down in those illustrious halls, >>>> formative moments in our quest for better technology for which a moder= n >>>> equivalent fails to come to mind. >>>> >>>> For me it's not just about innovations though, but a culture of >>>> curiosity, openness, and what feels like genuine interest in bettering= the >>>> human condition that seeps from so much of the work accomplished by MH= and >>>> other Bell Labs sites over the decades. A video I watched recently ab= out >>>> the breakup of the Bell System echoed what I see in countless recollec= tions >>>> of Bell Labs alumni, a sense that their work was contributing to somet= hing >>>> greater for everyone, not just the bottom line of the telephone compan= y. >>>> Hopefully the lessons Bell Labs has taught many an engineer, scientist= , and >>>> businessperson over the years outlive these facilities by orders of >>>> magnitude, but in either case, sad to see the physical artifacts of su= ch >>>> important times passing too into the sands of time. >>>> >>>> - Matt G. >>>> On Monday, December 11th, 2023 at 1:21 PM, ron minnich < >>>> rminnich@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> April 16, 2014, from the Unix room: >>>> >>>> "I'm about to turn this terminal off, >>>> the last one in the Unix Room. It's the >>>> same 400MHz Pentium II I've had since >>>> before left." >>>> >>>> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 11:46=E2=80=AFAM Marty McGowan, MIT Club of Pr= inceton < >>>> martymcg@fastmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thus following the Holmdel facility into the Halls of Oblivion. >>>>> >>>>> my current location, just E of the NJ Tpke, now splits the distance >>>>> between them. >>>>> >>>>> I was in HO in the late '80s, at MH in the mid '90s, there to divide >>>>> the corporate directory. >>>>> >>>>> Anecdote on the latter: The "company to be named" - i.e. Lucent had t= o >>>>> shell out Hundreds of 1000s to Yet Another Garage Tronics in Silicon = Valley >>>>> for rights to the name -- the internet was young enough that the Name >>>>> Search committee didn't have "Dot Com" in it's dictionary as yet. >>>>> >>>>> =3D*+[]* Marty McGowan +1 908 230-3739 <(908)%20230-3739> >>>>> VP of Membership, MIT Club of Princeton >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Dec 9, 2023, at 15:37, John Floren via TUHS wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I can't believe they'd give up the building, it's a beautiful >>>>> structure. Maybe they'll use it for other groups. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> john >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> --000000000000923986060c49bebf Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Why ? Pranksters or is there some application that benefi= ts from left hand screwed light bulbs?

Warner=C2=A0

On Mon, Dec 11, 2023, 10:55 PM Ken Thompson &= lt;kenbob@gmail.com> wrote:
<= /div>
there was a room with = left-hand screw
100 watt light bulbs and sockets.

<= /div>
O= n Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 6:36=E2=80=AFPM Peter Weinberger (=E6=B8=A9=E5=8D=9A= =E6=A0=BC) via TUHS <tuhs@tuhs.org> wrote:
The protons must have decayed by now.

On= Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 8:25=E2=80=AFPM ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com> wrote:
is "PJW in magnets" still there, I wonder.
On Mon, D= ec 11, 2023 at 5:06=E2=80=AFPM segaloco via TUHS <tuhs@tuhs.org> wrote= :
While my = gut says not likely, I'm holding out hope that Nokia is keen on ensurin= g someone does a historical sweep of the premises before all is said and do= ne.=C2=A0 You never know what might be sitting forgotten in a closet somewh= ere...a lot of history has gone down in those illustrious halls, formative = moments in our quest for better technology for which a modern equivalent fa= ils to come to mind.

For me it's not just abou= t innovations though, but a culture of curiosity, openness, and what feels = like genuine interest in bettering the human condition that seeps from so m= uch of the work accomplished by MH and other Bell Labs sites over the decad= es.=C2=A0 A video I watched recently about the breakup of the Bell System e= choed what I see in countless recollections of Bell Labs alumni, a sense th= at their work was contributing to something greater for everyone, not just = the bottom line of the telephone company.=C2=A0 Hopefully the lessons Bell = Labs has taught many an engineer, scientist, and businessperson over the ye= ars outlive these facilities by orders of magnitude, but in either case, sa= d to see the physical artifacts of such important times passing too into th= e sands of time.

- Matt G.
On Monday, December 11th, 2023 at 1:21 PM, ron minnich <rminnic= h@gmail.com> wrote:

April 16, 2014, from the Unix room:

"I'm about to turn this terminal off,
the last o= ne in the Unix Room. It's the
same 400MHz Pentium II I've had si= nce
before <someone> left."

On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 11:46=E2= =80=AFAM Marty McGowan, MIT Club of Princeton <martymcg@fastmail.com> wrote:
Thus following the Holmd= el facility into the Halls of Oblivion.

my cur= rent location, just E of the NJ Tpke, now splits the distance between them.=

I was in HO in the late '80s, at MH in th= e mid '90s, there to divide the corporate directory.
Anecdote on the latter: The "company to be named" -= i.e. Lucent had to shell out Hundreds of 1000s to Yet Another Garage Troni= cs in Silicon Valley for rights to the name -- the internet was young enoug= h that the Name Search committee didn't have "Dot Com" in it= 's dictionary as yet.
=

=3D*+[]* Marty McGowan +1 908 230-3739


<= div>



On Sat, Dec 9= , 2023, at 15:37, John Floren via TUHS wrote:
I can't believe t= hey'd give up the building, it's a beautiful structure. Maybe they&= #39;ll use it for other groups.


john



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