From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 07d6c762 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2019 15:09:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id EB2009B9CC; Thu, 26 Sep 2019 01:09:48 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21303947B9; Thu, 26 Sep 2019 01:09:25 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.i=@bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.b="gdlxeJQO"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 2E24D947B9; Thu, 26 Sep 2019 01:09:22 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qt1-f177.google.com (mail-qt1-f177.google.com [209.85.160.177]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 79BA793F38 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2019 01:09:20 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qt1-f177.google.com with SMTP id l3so2571413qtr.4 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2019 08:09:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=yEjzixaEXhGANtlQu15FECFkTpk5djLN6+UArJ2sSrU=; b=gdlxeJQO9HMBJ0J5J7PfFQP9XQ4/jgzFu4uamMsdsQtV79URZjOkRtqizj+TdgX88l ZvHY1F4yb5j29f9HOeSwxeJHdGg3I+S6UJZxa6SXbtJHJfwfuZ+w98Na3SWIpVQAore2 2LnS8MtO/+Oq9cXlJrdmEmBm4iwDU9n4iwKpLQdslGFT64Z1c8/x1W101Gp36dWOmCzU IzDMgEPyxrVLf9jiVk9WLdi8cfAm8v8rZkaQU0R2MCCdekqpcnkJsBIDQDFjauJov7aC /1UPOQPVCHjTCGDMtQRXawvUhpo4V7U/Zla9fLqmRRas80rxo0hcP1Lm60s3um5nlyFa 4dIA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=yEjzixaEXhGANtlQu15FECFkTpk5djLN6+UArJ2sSrU=; b=aAB5KxzRVn/n+l5m1kYfY3IgyOP7xZf2m/3+ki7lTg4iAE63VqVyzfqoIw9+iGsBj9 SD/E9jtqcDci7AbuzzYWE5Xx13fHmb4W9yTtsq+dRwSu4I44Wr5BF/KFW1KuP+nUnq+g g4zvnDA3q2L6oq+dRYG57EVZESCkrCypzt4sjF1e06j+K0KW8GY4EFTvr4JIdSX7JJV0 hI9xX4HGKYpTW6dJ90ZcS6x2vvHXdovJPf1bCGnJJ7KLRyjGhxickLIbxr+nQwvRbs0z YFgaErRT0rODE4Y7I2X3jmJ8eL9ystwHsSv0rSygch3hjH1ogcnXv2tcQqGnYDG+aqza tY2Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAV/3kxnZlOI/2WqbH33QExAkGjBJhdywNOCh9wFnSX/GSlndiOQ 8iPUVFKBgFKJ7BqXe/IdSzzKywLey8pQXOZaRlHXKcTZdda2+Q== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzm53HEEgwj3VF5nPGnYkhEHe5iV967rtxKS/wxCclDMlpa/xUR+WKU167p0qzDPNHYFJdnW13fZOtm0HnRxTo= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:44c9:: with SMTP id b9mr9240324qto.175.1569424159116; Wed, 25 Sep 2019 08:09:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <49C268A5-42E6-41E2-95F9-0A8043DFC9F3@alchemistowl.org> <65187b33-08f1-88ca-5729-eb40cdb5ced7@neophilic.com> In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 09:09:08 -0600 Message-ID: To: Arrigo Triulzi Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000081ae8305936209bc" Subject: Re: [TUHS] congratulations to Warner on a great talk X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Historic Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --00000000000081ae8305936209bc Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 8:43 AM Arrigo Triulzi wrote: > On 21 Sep 2019, at 16:44, Eric Allman wrote: > > Word this morning was that the recordings will be up in "a couple of > > days". Keep an eye on https://2019.eurobsdcon.org/ =E2=80=94 at the mo= ment > > there's a "livestream" pull-down, which I predict will be replaced with > > a pointer to the recordings (although they could end up elsewhere; I > > have no inside information). > > None of the talks appear to be published and, even more sadly, neither > have slides appeared with the exception of the keynote on silly Slideshar= e. > > I really hope they don=E2=80=99t disappear without trace. > Slides have been published, though maybe not through the EuroBSDCon site. I wasn't aware that I could publish them there. https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/177KxOif5oHARyIdZHDq-OO67_GVtMkzIAlD= X-cHxgb4/edit?usp=3Dsharing I'm told it will be a small number of weeks before the bsdtv folks that taped everything can edit the talks down from the raw footage and post them to youtube. They have the raw livestream, but a small number of tweaks need to be made to each talk. I'll be writing a followup paper, as well as an article for the FreeBSD Journal. There's a number of small technical errors in the talk owing to two factors: (1) I couldn't see my speaker notes during the talk so I think I misspoke or neglected to include a clarifying sentence or two that I'd planned and (2) I found more original material that helped to clarify timelines (eg: PWB 1.0 was distributed outside of bell labs: it was V6 + the "50 changes" based, but still retained features like the V6 TTY driver. This was in 1978, about a year before V7 was released. PWB 2.0 was fully V7 based and included updates to the tools PWB added, exact details TBD). I did talk a little about the ambiguity between UNIX/TS and PWB/UNIX 3.0 in the talk, but the details of that need to be ironed out a bit. I hope to go through more original sources to figure all that out as different people remember things slightly differently, and sometimes contemporary documentation or scholarly papers contradicts the remembrance so I need to sort that out better, as well as where I can run diffs between supposed sources of things to find as much of the truth around this that I can. I hope to give this talk again, with some tweaks, since it was well received. It's been a while since my talks have provoked that much enthusiastic energy in the room. Maybe FOSDEM, BSDCan and something Linux oriented / related in the US. Warner Warner Warner --00000000000081ae8305936209bc Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 8:43 AM Arrig= o Triulzi <arrigo@alchemistow= l.org> wrote:
On 21 Sep 2019, at 16:44, Eric Allman <tuhs@eric.allman.name> wrote:
> Word this morning was that the recordings will be up in "a couple= of
> days".=C2=A0 Keep an eye on https://2019.eurobsdcon.org/ = =E2=80=94 at the moment
> there's a "livestream" pull-down, which I predict will b= e replaced with
> a pointer to the recordings (although they could end up elsewhere; I > have no inside information).

None of the talks appear to be published and, even more sadly, neither have= slides appeared with the exception of the keynote on silly Slideshare.

I really hope they don=E2=80=99t disappear without trace.
<= div>
Slides have been published, though maybe not through the= EuroBSDCon site. I wasn't aware that I could publish them there.
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I'm told it will be a small n= umber of weeks before the bsdtv folks that taped everything can edit the ta= lks down from the raw footage and post them to youtube. They have the raw l= ivestream, but a small number of tweaks need to be made to each talk.
=

I'll be writing a followup paper, as well as an art= icle for the FreeBSD Journal. There's a number of small technical error= s in the talk owing to two factors: (1) I couldn't see my speaker notes= during the talk so I think I misspoke or neglected to include a clarifying= sentence or two that I'd planned and (2) I found more original materia= l that helped to clarify timelines (eg: PWB 1.0 was distributed outside of = bell labs: it was V6=C2=A0+ the "50 changes" based, but still ret= ained features like the V6 TTY driver. This was in 1978, about a year befor= e V7 was released. PWB 2.0 was fully V7 based and included updates to the t= ools PWB added, exact details TBD). I did talk a little about the ambiguity= between UNIX/TS and PWB/UNIX 3.0 in the talk, but the details of that need= to be ironed out a bit. I hope to go through more original sources to figu= re all that out as different people remember things slightly differently, a= nd sometimes contemporary documentation or scholarly papers contradicts the= remembrance so I need to sort that out better, as well as where I can run = diffs between supposed sources of things to find as much of the truth aroun= d this that I can.

I hope to give this talk again,= with some tweaks, since it was well received. It's been a while since = my talks have provoked that much enthusiastic energy in the room. Maybe FOS= DEM, BSDCan and something Linux oriented / related in the US.
Warner

Warner

Warner=C2=A0
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