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From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To: Arnold Robbins <arnold@skeeve.com>
Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] The 2038 bug...
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 08:30:55 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANCZdfoKV7A46ho3ORghFZEddROty3A-y2bn1VY0m=ipBxFF6w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <202012310810.0BV8ADZ3027195@freefriends.org>

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On Thu, Dec 31, 2020, 1:10 AM <arnold@skeeve.com> wrote:

> Will there be that many 32 bit systems left by then?


FreeBSD has 64bit time_t everywhere except i386. We looked at compat shims
and found like 200 system calls would need compat shims to keep a stable
ABI. Creating a new ABI is mostly a matter of fixing the places that know
time_t is 32 bit on i386.

Most likely, though, it will just be retired 15 years or so before the
deadline.


time_t these
> days tends to be 64 bits, and I think at least the Linux file systems
> store them that way.


Time_t was still 32 bits last I checked on i386 and a few others...

Microsoft counts time from January 1, 1980, so
> that buys them until 2048. :-)
>
> I'll be (G-d willing) 79 then; I hope around, but I also hope not
> overly involved with computers. :-)
>

I'll only be 72... with LORAN-C retired in the US the last of the
potentially problematic[*] code I've deployed is gone.

Warner

[*] Purely from a 32 bit time_t perspective.

Arnold
>
> Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'll be a mere 58, so not even retired yet. I fear it will be a very
> > interesting time, in the "May you live in interesting times" sense.
> >
> > Niklas
> >
> > Den tors 31 dec. 2020 kl 08:21 skrev Dave Horsfall <dave@horsfall.org>:
> >
> > > As the new year is about to kick in (down-under anyway), it got me to
> > > thinking (always dangerous): how many here will be around for it to
> pick
> > > up the pieces that are no doubt still lying around?
> > >
> > > I'll be about the ripe old age of 85, so I may be around to see the
> > > Imminent Death of the Internet (Film at 11).
> > >
> > > 2100?  Forget it...  Too bad, as "Revolt in 2100 (?)" is one of my
> > > favourite Heinlein books.
> > >
> > > Others?
> > >
> > > -- Dave
> > >
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-31 15:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-31  7:19 Dave Horsfall
2020-12-31  7:24 ` Niklas Karlsson
2020-12-31  8:10   ` arnold
2020-12-31 15:30     ` Warner Losh [this message]
2020-12-31 16:09       ` Adam Thornton
2020-12-31 16:12         ` Larry McVoy
2021-01-11  7:18           ` alan
2021-01-11 14:01             ` Stuart Remphrey
2020-12-31 18:36         ` Theodore Ts'o
2020-12-31 21:34           ` Warner Losh
2021-01-06 16:32       ` Dario Niedermann
2021-01-06 17:08         ` Henry Bent
2021-01-06 18:05           ` Dario Niedermann
2021-01-06 18:20           ` Michael Kjörling
2021-01-06 21:09         ` Dave Horsfall
2020-12-31 19:18     ` Bakul Shah
2021-01-04  8:22 ` Peter Jeremy via TUHS
2021-01-04  9:13   ` Angus Robinson
2021-01-04 21:49   ` Dave Horsfall
2021-01-04 21:56     ` Warner Losh
2021-01-05 18:05       ` Dan Cross
2021-01-06  7:21         ` Warner Losh
2021-01-07 22:56     ` Stuart Remphrey
2021-01-08  1:25       ` Nemo Nusquam
2021-01-10  6:56         ` Stuart Remphrey
2021-01-04  8:59 ` Sergio Pedraja
2021-01-07 22:50 ` Stuart Remphrey
2021-01-10  7:16 ` Valdimar Sigurdsson
2021-01-10  7:24   ` Niklas Karlsson
2021-01-10 10:15   ` Stuart Remphrey
2020-12-31 15:05 M Douglas McIlroy
2020-12-31 16:51 ` arnold
2020-12-31 23:31   ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2021-01-09  8:44 Norman Wilson

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