From: imp@bsdimp.com (Warner Losh)
Subject: [TUHS] Source code abundance?
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2017 13:32:48 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANCZdfoKtLP_37jiHerT53VDcnHf4XXX76AA_28fPQ7jb2ta4g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAC20D2PkJ_KVOkVPT=QRWq3V0sTQjiYjT=5k9Xx0Mm-85=FXpg@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Clem Cole <clemc at ccc.com> wrote:
> Below
>
> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 2:29 PM, Steve Nickolas <usotsuki at buric.co> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 1 Mar 2017, Henry Bent wrote:
>>
>>> My understanding is that System V source of any sort is not legal to
>>> distribute. I believe that source exists and has been archived for at
>>> least some variants of SVR1, SVR2, SVR3, and SVR4.
>>
>>
>> Well, that's probably 95% true...the other 5% is Solaris. ;)
>
>
>
> Not a lawyer and don't play one TV or anywhere else....
>
>
> Some thoughts...
>
> 1.) UCB Regents Position per AT&T/BSDi/UCB - anything through 32V is public
> domain (see groklaw)
> 2.) All of Sun & IBM, bought out source licenses from AT&T with rights to do
> anything.... IBM is based on the SVR3 license, Sun on SVR4
> 3.) IBM's license is the basis for the OSF/1 license
> 4.) HP independently eventually gets is own bought out license, but I'm not
> sure what it's based [need to google the old UNIGRAM/X or the like]
> 5.) Sun takes SVR4 in and starts to add "Solaris features" to it (not going
> to argue percentages here for the moment).
> 6.) Sun open sources this code base...
>
> Now some questions....
>
> From the above, one could argue that set of code included in Solaris from
> the SysV linage was made public by step 6.
>
> I have seen argument that anything through SVR3 is public because of the
> actions of IBM, HP, and SUN when the code was bought out; but I have not
> seen a definitive action like step 6 that infer all of SVR3 was public.
I would be skeptical of that assertion. Copyright law doesn't allow
one to gain rights for earlier versions of a work they got rights for,
except to the extent that the earlier work is wholly included in the
later work.
Warner
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Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-03-01 18:01 Arthur Krewat
2017-03-01 18:07 ` Cory Smelosky
2017-03-01 18:13 ` Henry Bent
2017-03-01 18:27 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-03-01 19:18 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-03-01 19:25 ` Henry Bent
2017-03-01 19:29 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-03-01 19:32 ` Henry Bent
2017-03-01 19:49 ` Random832
2017-03-01 19:51 ` Warner Losh
2017-03-01 20:18 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-03-01 20:28 ` Clem Cole
2017-03-01 20:32 ` Warner Losh [this message]
2017-03-02 13:55 ` Paul Ruizendaal
2017-03-02 14:15 ` Jim Capp
2017-03-02 1:22 ` Jason Stevens
2017-03-02 6:50 ` Cory Smelosky
2017-03-02 13:36 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-03-04 3:29 ` Warren Toomey
2017-03-04 12:51 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-03-06 15:33 ` Angelo Papenhoff
2017-03-06 15:57 ` ron minnich
2017-03-06 16:20 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-03-06 22:52 ` Clem Cole
2017-03-07 6:52 ` Angelo Papenhoff
2017-03-07 13:25 ` Clem Cole
2017-03-06 16:21 ` Dan Cross
2017-03-06 16:45 ` Ron Natalie
2017-03-06 20:50 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-03-07 15:07 ` Ron Natalie
2017-03-07 15:13 ` Ron Natalie
2017-03-07 15:28 ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-07 19:44 ` Ron Natalie
2017-03-06 18:00 ` ron minnich
2017-03-06 18:22 ` Dan Cross
2017-03-06 19:24 ` Nemo
2017-03-06 16:48 ` Clem Cole
2017-03-06 15:57 ` Clem Cole
2017-03-06 22:29 ` ron minnich
2017-03-06 22:59 ` Clem Cole
2017-03-06 23:31 ` Steve Johnson
2017-03-06 23:32 ` Cory Smelosky
2017-03-06 23:44 ` Steve Johnson
2017-03-06 23:48 ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-06 23:53 ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-07 0:42 ` Warren Toomey
2017-03-07 0:33 ` Random832
2017-03-07 0:50 ` Clem Cole
2017-03-06 16:19 ` Jason Stevens
2017-03-06 19:06 ` Paul Ruizendaal
2017-03-06 20:32 ` ron minnich
2017-03-06 19:36 ` Warren Toomey
2017-03-06 20:17 ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-06 22:19 ` Warren Toomey
2017-03-03 20:06 Noel Chiappa
2017-03-03 20:28 ` Clem Cole
2017-03-03 23:12 ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-03 23:56 ` Wesley Parish
2017-03-04 0:29 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-03-04 1:01 ` Henry Bent
[not found] ` <CAH1jEzZPonQuq_4YJWN=cpaB9J8q2+TU-zRWx+Bg+29SUvfOVQ@mail.gmail.com>
2017-03-04 3:23 ` Nick Downing
2017-03-04 10:04 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-03-04 16:28 ` Clem Cole
2017-03-04 16:34 ` Clem Cole
2017-03-05 19:15 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-03-05 19:25 ` Warner Losh
2017-03-05 19:55 ` Clem Cole
2017-03-06 9:35 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-03-06 0:13 ` Josh Good
2017-03-05 15:44 ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-05 18:26 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-03-05 18:55 ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-05 19:10 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-03-05 21:36 ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-05 22:03 ` Mutiny
2017-03-04 15:39 Noel Chiappa
2017-03-04 16:02 ` Jason Stevens
2017-03-04 17:53 ` Jacob Goense
2017-03-04 18:37 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-03-04 18:38 ` Ron Natalie
2017-03-04 20:39 ` Cory Smelosky
2017-03-04 21:05 ` Jacob Goense
2017-03-05 17:54 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-03-05 18:24 ` Mutiny
2017-03-08 12:26 Doug McIlroy
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