Re: [TUHS] ACM Fellow, Ken Thompson

[Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>]

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On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 3:30 PM Heinz Lycklama <heinz@osta.com> wrote:

> INTERACTIVE Systems Corp. (ISC) also ported a UNIX system to an
> early VAX 750 computer running DEC's VMS operating system
> starting in mid- 1978. ISC was in the business of porting the
> UNIX operating system to many different computer hardware
> architectures, mini-computers to mainframes, but the first
> complete UNIX system port was actually done to the DEC VMS
> system. We delivered the first UNIX on VMS system to a customer
> in the Fall of 1979.  Many of these systems were delivered to
> customers in North America as well as in Europe well into
> the mid-1980's.
>

What relationship, if any, does this have to V32? Or maybe "Was that based
on V7 or V32?" is the right question...

Also, this wasn't something that I had on my list... Any chance there's a
paper / article / etc on this?

And thank you for your remembrance...

Warner


> Heinz
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> On 1/15/2021 6:29 PM, Warner Losh wrote:
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> On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 3:18 PM John Cowan <cowan@ccil.org> wrote:
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>> On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 3:14 PM Dave Horsfall <dave@horsfall.org> wrote:
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>>> > Whose foray?  Not DEC's.  Eunice was built at SRI and sold by the
>>> > Wollongong Group, who must have had Downundrian connections.
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>>>  It was
>>> originally developed ca. 1981 by David Kashtan at SRI[1] and later
>>> maintained and marketed by The Wollongong Group.''
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>> Where's the disagreement?
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> Eunice post-dated DEC's first Unix offering by several years. They sold V7
> and later V7M before rebranding it to Ultrix. Eunice was 4.1BSD (later 4.2
> and 4.3) that Dr  Kashtan grafted into VMS in ways that... provoke strong
> feelings among reviewers...  The TCP/IP stack that was inside of Eunice
> would form the basis for Wollongong's TCP/IP offerings on VMS... A more
> refined version, also done I think by Kashtan, was marketed by TGV and
> there was always much rivalry between the two companies...
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> Wollongong got its license because they were the marketing company formed
> to market Dr. Miller's port to Interdata, and they later branched out
> significantly because their license was so special...  Or at least that's
> the story they told customers and internally... I never saw the original
> license to know...
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> Warner
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