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From: imp@bsdimp.com (Warner Losh)
Subject: [TUHS] signals and blocked in I/O
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2017 10:19:19 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANCZdfoRk+R7xpYnFGk3O8sy-DUnykOZjxnTL1vVguaBpAVDBg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201712041636.vB4GaFEp017803@freefriends.org>

On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 9:36 AM, <arnold at skeeve.com> wrote:

> Larry McVoy <lm at mcvoy.com> wrote:
>
> > So I have 10 processes, they all run until the system starts to
> > thrash, then they are all in wait mode for memory but there isn't
> > any (and there is no swap configured).
>
> Um, pardon me for asking the obvious question, but why not just configure
> a few gigs of swap to give the OS some breathing room?
>
> Most modern systems let you use a regular old file in the filesystem
> for swap space, instead of having to repartition your disk and using a
> dedicated partition. I'd be suprised if your *BSD box didn't let you do
> that too.  It's a little slower, but a gazillion times more convenient.
>

The deployed systems in the field have swap space configured. But if we're
not careful we can still run out. Larry's tests are at the extreme limits,
to be sure, and not having swap exacerbates the bad behavior at the limit.
If he's trying to ameliorate bad effects, doing it on worst case scenario
certainly helps. The BSD box allows for it, and it's not that much slower,
but it kinda misses the point of the exercise.

Also, the systems in questions often operate at the limits of the disk
subsystem, so additional write traffic is undesirable. They are also SSDs,
so doubly undesirable where avoidable.

Warner
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Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-01 15:44 Larry McVoy
2017-12-01 15:53 ` Dan Cross
2017-12-01 16:11   ` Clem Cole
2017-12-01 16:18     ` Larry McVoy
2017-12-01 16:33       ` Warner Losh
2017-12-01 17:26         ` Larry McVoy
2017-12-01 19:10           ` Chris Torek
2017-12-01 23:21             ` Dave Horsfall
2017-12-01 21:33           ` Bakul Shah
2017-12-01 22:38             ` Larry McVoy
2017-12-01 23:03               ` Ralph Corderoy
2017-12-01 23:09                 ` Larry McVoy
2017-12-01 23:42                   ` Bakul Shah
2017-12-02  0:48                     ` Larry McVoy
2017-12-02  1:40                       ` Bakul Shah
2017-12-03 13:50                       ` Ralph Corderoy
2017-12-04 16:36                       ` arnold
2017-12-04 16:58                         ` Arthur Krewat
2017-12-04 17:19                         ` Warner Losh [this message]
2017-12-05  2:12                           ` Bakul Shah
2017-12-04 22:07                         ` Dave Horsfall
2017-12-04 22:54                           ` Ron Natalie
2017-12-04 22:56                             ` Warner Losh
2017-12-05  0:49                               ` Dave Horsfall
2017-12-05  0:58                                 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-12-05  2:15                                 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-12-05  2:54                                   ` Clem cole
2017-12-02 14:59                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-12-01 16:01 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-12-01 16:24 ` Warner Losh

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