From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 20296 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2023 17:14:14 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 21 Mar 2023 17:14:14 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01BAA4122C; Wed, 22 Mar 2023 03:14:09 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ed1-x52e.google.com (mail-ed1-x52e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::52e]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B71764122B for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2023 03:14:02 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ed1-x52e.google.com with SMTP id i5so15631719eda.0 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2023 10:14:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; t=1679418841; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=ShA+s0hqZGuJwZvvJQiT1pmwJNu4mdckvbwPiWwxxcI=; b=C4CCSDyxLUWYgmJucYURBDqUZtMxOwYjZSDLUVPVIXQ/jd/0EmETm+ecw1woKVGNH7 9Y47tlKQlHQrITYpLMus7IYzkPRfOVVTL7Uo2vXpacHk/cXTEH4lYnUeZUs4Qev5jHJk Be8BIjqIm6++zOT77vgQq8VSPuuDi4HODtZFdpEzBfbFyM4CQv20O1KaReWCqTtwlwWN 2+wIgcwLymDqjO0/R7kE6H8sc5GJxAJnbukIA1Gf75miBeVsgOIAfE/cvUnsSjSFZBCN r5mIz8lt8AQUpZqfKi12eSBEDL/lmGev8ZHVdUmLYeVevC1RP2Q7RMIaOSlf4Ca9315A W4sA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; t=1679418841; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=ShA+s0hqZGuJwZvvJQiT1pmwJNu4mdckvbwPiWwxxcI=; b=dHoSFhRLc2VYoTS2uXvkSEjxkNIQFj6kqwH3AS/FInhUuTMglDeUVz4kd9L79nHkh8 aE/y+pe5wMqY+RIYFecMYSFL9lvmYPKnQV1mhbdfQ5cwgSiPP3igAoL7qVBtMPEzFJ+S 86O65SCPyroUH/zTAM6NAT9YmBD+CBX+lUXVY63g1UjefsaH0qbu5AV73vYiQx75d/HP bHbs2EhxDj71l06IGIcQcmfLUIciE7UgpWqW+WSk53j31Cns87+t5MjHt0PI300C54T9 zql/aMFKkjdql72Ur4DGRJ5jwcsNiS+D5wX8CZpaQWgHN7ucDXOVS64c2rk0sfJGaw9l BXsg== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKWSB45LgK7QgCorREx/T/YRieqncjg3AFlp2RNdBey3xfIiKVUq xhbfIUqmoMhZywypEDVR9ATIOrUz6z8mr7x9SqyOSm+umZnfRmtyF6c= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set/dh5PESSv5UQftL3EYnsbIedvC9BH7kZDKJaj74FFtqtkI1tfeePx3HG4RVeqLgKCuKJpoABEBaGT+GiyzkoY= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:3213:b0:501:dfd8:67c5 with SMTP id g19-20020a056402321300b00501dfd867c5mr1632436eda.3.1679418841147; Tue, 21 Mar 2023 10:14:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2023 18:13:50 +0100 Message-ID: To: Jan Schaumann , The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000074be2905f76c2b33" Message-ID-Hash: UO3PSDDG7L7BKMOF35XHONG5IE4WLQNF X-Message-ID-Hash: UO3PSDDG7L7BKMOF35XHONG5IE4WLQNF X-MailFrom: wlosh@bsdimp.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: NetBSD turns 30 List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --00000000000074be2905f76c2b33 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Tue, Mar 21, 2023, 4:39 PM Jan Schaumann via TUHS wrote: > Hello, > > 30 years ago today on March 21st, 1993 at around > 09:45:37 UTC, NetBSD was born! > > I believe this makes NetBSD the oldest, > still-maintained and actively developed, free and open > source descendant of the Berkeley Software > Distribution (BSD), a true genetic Unix (albeit not > small-caps UNIX nor UNIX(tm)). > 2.11BSD is older and continuous... but admittedly much less so than NetBSD. It was released in 1991 and has had almost 500 patches, the latest in the last year. It traces back to 2.9BSD released in 1983. But it still is basically only on the pdp-11... Warner If you want to see what the source tree looked like > back then: > > cvs -d anoncvs@anoncvs.netbsd.org:/cvsroot co -D "1993-03-21 09:45:37 > GMT" src > > Or browse the tree at that time: > https://www.netbsd.org/~jschauma/src-1993-03-21/ > > Unlike me, many on this list were around at the time > and place. Would love to hear some origin stories... > > -Jan > --00000000000074be2905f76c2b33 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Tue, Mar 21, 2023, 4:39 PM Jan Schaumann via TUHS &= lt;tuhs@tuhs.org> wrote:
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px= #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hello,

30 years ago today on March 21st, 1993 at around
09:45:37 UTC, NetBSD was born!

I believe this makes NetBSD the oldest,
still-maintained and actively developed, free and open
source descendant of the Berkeley Software
Distribution (BSD), a true genetic Unix (albeit not
small-caps UNIX nor UNIX(tm)).


2.11BSD is older = and continuous... but admittedly much less so than NetBSD. It was released = in 1991 and has had almost 500 patches, the latest in the last year. It tra= ces back to 2.9BSD released in 1983. But it still is basically only on the = pdp-11...

Warner

If you want to see what the source tree looked like
back then:

cvs -d anoncvs@anoncvs.netbsd.org:/cvsroot co -D "1993-03-21 09:45:37 = GMT" src

Or browse the tree at that time:
https://www.netbsd.org/~jschauma/src-1993= -03-21/

Unlike me, many on this list were around at the time
and place.=C2=A0 Would love to hear some origin stories...

-Jan
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