From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 24115 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2022 19:08:49 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 14 Oct 2022 19:08:49 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99A0940F0D; Sat, 15 Oct 2022 05:08:13 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ej1-f49.google.com (mail-ej1-f49.google.com [209.85.218.49]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8763440F06 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2022 05:08:08 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ej1-f49.google.com with SMTP id d26so12426030eje.10 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2022 12:08:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=fwBB9fSqwOKGiJ/Lwxr36xOunVkGY5y4EQ7P1ytit7A=; b=FmWFnajPuklVxx0jP5bVDUIXZYQomXmEPGxSnrGvvrUiR88K18NsthuV2mCR8L2U09 ZMwvAxnKV+uT8UYnF+iHEoSjk0LS+YUgLN3u1GKBnMHlXSxiu0dT2wJu9yHmVaJmZOSL 1jyEpU/kjZ/emGbxTmznjsih2rlqlXJbERIUY+/RyuUAa3JkcwiQanf3Gycn18nfLjpM EFYd8YtaurY/apvUliiJJlAdlVF40XV9UGHpd5/eRkjjjWZZaNdlGPlUcN3nhb4ByQyv fBDdug6elt4fhAxhnPw8MyztIW6oisXet4HC6U6dLajlr58FPfgKdLyIzZ5VDmvrVpDU f8Jw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=fwBB9fSqwOKGiJ/Lwxr36xOunVkGY5y4EQ7P1ytit7A=; b=k55rp7N7dQ1sqgZ4lIhgAF4aL4ZnO5SVcYleeNjeWH/0DXNvMMqrmvMmULiHcucdUh riJN2vHOfJJaOtWMyWS6Fts/OtQypcKb2Q1kPnYM3Kfa4l2R27KzG1dzgIvOORjYxjIO fj0KmAfDYGLlwduXQMc/px9Hvc7fSEBHIGEIh5vaNODL2W8jFk45jVmvIJBF8071C1tg hOIoszBy0Sof8cf3thXvHGwjEF2l2kazTZ2ldTjeoO+Xxu07AHGpYPi7INSomrfhfkUu B5E6eynvzfOKWrDOfstig0wkxJzBt9Q4XJ0ZjkEbh2bnGVOi3KzLOmjpLCcE4SGcpXA1 +/yQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ACrzQf1kYZe6cmQ4wX1juGXteH+AuFs/Kqk/EQAYTlAM5ElRbSMXWeQu gcFyTOjZVuUmJZu/kgF5Qoc1Ge/vF4NlLiiQFYuXwUzdQuU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMsMyM4FdMO40gsn1X4qwzVFNDiA/2Mh1ebcB6KDwWdhVXMihDxpXIalUR5yJDdkAX+9hd3z8Kq7xBH8f3aIEfUT/0A= X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:6e28:b0:78d:20d7:1431 with SMTP id sd40-20020a1709076e2800b0078d20d71431mr4557381ejc.333.1665774426906; Fri, 14 Oct 2022 12:07:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <9AA075C9-995F-47F7-9758-2492407DC9FF@planet.nl> <202210141608.29EG8I2j086740@ultimate.com> In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 13:06:54 -0600 Message-ID: To: Clem Cole Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000fdfbe405eb03544c" Message-ID-Hash: 2MZ75WNMZ3CKXTYPSOAQTFKU3VOQ5NBL X-Message-ID-Hash: 2MZ75WNMZ3CKXTYPSOAQTFKU3VOQ5NBL X-MailFrom: wlosh@bsdimp.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Attempting To Build NOSC and BBN UNIXs + ARPANET code List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000fdfbe405eb03544c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 14, 2022, 10:39 AM Clem Cole wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 12:09 PM Phil Budne wrote: > >> Paul Ruizendaal wrote: >> > sys4.c: I think this is available in BBN V6: >> > https://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=3DBBN-V6/ken < >> https://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=3DBBN-V6/ken> >> > In this file the only real network addition is Jack Haverty=E2=80=99s = user >> timer variable, I think. What else is missing? >> >> Side question: What/when is the origin of the pty driver? >> > IIRC Rand - there were around for the V6 > Yea, pseudo terminalsquite common common and clearly RAND implemented them too. It's quite possible the bell lab folks learned of the RAND additions, maybe via Berkeley where several bell Labs folks spent time and who had these RAND tapes... Warner > =E1=90=A7 > --000000000000fdfbe405eb03544c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Fri, Oct 14, 2022, 10:39 AM Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com> wrote:

On Fri, = Oct 14, 2022 at 12:09 PM Phil Budne <phil@ultimate.com> wrote:
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Paul Ruizendaal <= ;pnr@= planet.nl> wrote:
> sys4.c: I think this is available in BBN V6:
> ht= tps://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=3DBBN-V6/ken <https://minnie.tu= hs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=3DBBN-V6/ken>
> In this file the only real network addition is Jack Haverty=E2=80=99s = user timer variable, I think. What else is missing?

Side question: What/when is the origin of the pty driver?
<= div>IIRC Rand - there were around for the V6=C2=A0

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Yea, pseudo terminalsquite common common and cl= early RAND implemented them too. It's quite possible the bell lab folks= learned of the RAND additions, maybe via Berkeley where several bell Labs = folks spent time and who had these RAND tapes...
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