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From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To: Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com>
Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Old 386 Unix Versions, was: Re: PCC for the i386
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 09:31:08 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANCZdfp5ffndHB1nex=N6fVTyxZvbzPKxud1gTtTZHGcez4vpA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190717151101.GD16562@mcvoy.com>

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On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 9:11 AM Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 02:10:14AM -0600, arnold@skeeve.com wrote:
> > emanuel stiebler <emu@e-bbes.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On 2019-07-11 18:50, A. P. Garcia wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 12:31 PM Clem cole <clemc@ccc.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Did Sun have anything to do with that? I seem to recall something
> > > > called "Interactive Unix" for the 386, possibly marketed by Sun...
> > >
> > > "Interactive Unix" was pretty nice back than.
> > > Anybody remembers ESIX? Still have the document wall for that ...
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> >
> > Sun had a '386 based system in early 90s-ish called the Road Runner.
> > I never saw it. It ran SunOS 4.x and I think was discontinued by the
> > time Solaris 2.x came along.
>
> Yep, can confirm.  I was a fan but the powers that were at Sun at the
> time just didn't want competition for SPARC.  Which was sort of silly,
> a 386 was nowhere near as fast as the SPARC chips of the day, that was
> when RISC actually made sense.  But perhaps they had a crystal ball
> and could see that x86 was going to be as fast or faster down the
> road?  I tend to doubt it, they really looked down on the 386.
>

And wasn't it a weird version of SunOS? Support for the Roadrunners was
only in a couple of releases too (4.0, 4.0.1 and 4.0.2 only). Most of the
sunos sources that have fallen off a truck on the internet are 4.0.3 and
newer, so there's no i386 support in them. I used a Sun386/250 at
Wollongong to do testing. Mostly it ran X and was one of the available X
workstations in the testing lab since it was weird enough people didn't
want to use it (though the Sony News box next to it might also have come in
a close second for weird).

The wikipedia page says there was a Sun486 (code named apache) that was
designed and a few built, but that was then cancelled before release.

Warner

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Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-11 14:53 [TUHS] " Jason Stevens
2019-07-11 15:12 ` arnold
2019-07-11 15:37 ` Clem cole
2019-07-11 15:50   ` Jason Stevens
2019-07-11 16:30     ` Clem cole
2019-07-11 16:42       ` Richard Salz
2019-07-11 16:48       ` Warner Losh
2019-07-11 17:05         ` Clem Cole
2019-07-11 19:39           ` Charles H Sauer
2019-07-12  0:14             ` Clem Cole
2019-07-11 16:50       ` A. P. Garcia
2019-07-11 16:54         ` Clem Cole
2019-07-12  3:44         ` Michael Parson
2019-07-17  7:37         ` [TUHS] Old 386 Unix Versions, was: " emanuel stiebler
2019-07-17  8:10           ` arnold
2019-07-17  9:28             ` Arrigo Triulzi
2019-07-17 10:09               ` Jason Stevens
2019-07-17 10:42               ` emanuel stiebler
2019-07-17 15:40                 ` Adam Thornton
2019-07-17 18:01                   ` Clem Cole
2019-07-17 12:32               ` Ben Greenfield via TUHS
2019-07-17 12:50                 ` Dagobert Michelsen
2019-07-17 13:38                   ` Arrigo Triulzi
2019-07-17 14:41                 ` Clem Cole
2019-07-17 15:08                   ` Ben Greenfield via TUHS
2019-07-17 21:09                     ` Dagobert Michelsen
2019-07-18  8:56                       ` Arrigo Triulzi
2019-07-17 16:04                   ` William Pechter
2019-07-17 14:34               ` Clem Cole
2019-07-17 23:22                 ` Bakul Shah
2019-07-18  0:04                   ` Clem cole
2019-07-17 22:48               ` Chris Hanson
2019-07-18  8:39                 ` Wesley Parish
2019-07-17 14:15             ` Clem Cole
2019-07-17 15:11             ` Larry McVoy
2019-07-17 15:31               ` Warner Losh [this message]
2019-07-17 15:36               ` Jason Stevens
2019-07-17 16:56                 ` Larry McVoy
2019-07-24  1:04               ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2019-07-24  1:30                 ` Arthur Krewat
2019-07-24 21:53                 ` Kevin Bowling
2019-07-25 19:16                   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2019-07-25 19:29                     ` [TUHS] AT&T 3b4000 (was Re: Old 386 Unix Versions) Kevin Bowling
2019-07-25 20:47                       ` Clem Cole
2019-07-26 18:18                         ` Seth J. Morabito
2019-07-26 19:24                           ` Clem Cole
2019-07-18  0:04           ` [TUHS] BSD/386 (was: Old 386 Unix Versions, was: Re: PCC for the i386) Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2019-07-18  0:16             ` Richard Salz
2019-07-18  1:08               ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2019-07-18 15:01             ` Chet Ramey
2019-07-20  5:32 [TUHS] Old 386 Unix Versions, was: Re: PCC for the i386 Rudi Blom

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