From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id f9880159 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2018 18:04:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 2BE47A189D; Wed, 27 Jun 2018 04:04:57 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57E6CA1845; Wed, 27 Jun 2018 04:04:46 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.i=@bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.b=qHLTyvkQ; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 84065A1845; Wed, 27 Jun 2018 04:04:43 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-io0-f172.google.com (mail-io0-f172.google.com [209.85.223.172]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BEF6AA183B for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2018 04:04:40 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-io0-f172.google.com with SMTP id e15-v6so16828475iog.1 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2018 11:04:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=0ivr9fyjZ4wtkBMH0h3Ap1GGHcr7+r+GmZirwaRyXdI=; b=qHLTyvkQjy6U278quX3DvcxeiUJgFAPnbtlPZvzUEpoUxAlwIASJsflxaUTU4OHSk4 0bxaB+w5a97tWyEc9Ypla7YbGvFjdBmEoig8pVH+UT6h9I45+uAKX6xteVQhFGxTtu+U PkVRJBkmvSJrLpkpHi0MFWCdNaubAPs+RHZ1bCKeuROxciIeuxAs84q6KbiWo+BkA1NP kNuwgnypNsBYHs78YRJVZYo80L1QvsGPABZeWAHWXMm9G26f6G5+t4VdSHOKGtMJdfos q+IUCuYeI7jl8O1kvWGUXlq8VRKCdTfzUGbnayd7qyfipfNShstcbaNdjhXZo2IpKkjb 6DPg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=0ivr9fyjZ4wtkBMH0h3Ap1GGHcr7+r+GmZirwaRyXdI=; b=Zysxx5N6ELzqL5UoQTCQQzMsrj0ALxRtMBMwKQQ2fsc/vduo5mJbQEZ1m+vxw0LWad lN+eAauqk9TopmMSQbBg2lMhHEDB1vgBwDKYG0AcYIVPCXNEjWiuhK7BmiEkBzlDow7B GBmRIQzj9U7jcs5fkL0mBqsMatU/giT+K9uC4YigfyRGYM+su7fkVHbHpNC5oqTpWtmX lnAAH17lHdAoWzx20xLspKshwQTkiaIbC9bx3PVyaQG8t1g1Gr+7OP+v66XyXG8DaGEw nUqF0cZT9Rw9/Q3eVUiBhdibDdNBlqlve+YN7UaWGG1Zs0EzKe7Wxo5Rst/sYPw/7S3+ KMDA== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E3jRjEL6VV3u0ZPLzy//8rRHgBIjBHzTF7S1XCjqf1ypA3bKVen CSzgg17oN3tj7iJDfFGpbc9MHK0v/pPGqeZmh2bCxQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpc32eCOzpQGOLD3aKo7r8uZzgtteXy7nxskfa6qVTRbmpsa7K/wLVQQRCL0dUCkNJP6Q8/hOrK3eds8T6/8QE0= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:d40c:: with SMTP id l12-v6mr2209131iog.37.1530036279964; Tue, 26 Jun 2018 11:04:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a4f:5945:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Jun 2018 11:04:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [50.227.106.226] In-Reply-To: References: <20180625161016.C16BA18C082@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> <3950d997-d310-7cfc-30bf-237e9d872739@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net> From: Warner Losh Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2018 12:04:38 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: EmGjVh0cJ9TpxTJcQXgzKVlwBbY Message-ID: To: Tony Finch Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000f60b64056f8f54ce" Subject: Re: [TUHS] off-topic list X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list , Grant Taylor Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000f60b64056f8f54ce Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 7:09 AM, Tony Finch wrote: > Clem Cole wrote: > > > Anyway, the folks that did PMDF formed a small firm and sold it for a > > while. There was a commercial IP implementation from France call TUV > > for VMS and IIRC, the TUV folks bought PMDF and whole thing got sold to > > a lot people and had quite a ride . > > Still has, it seems! http://www.process.com/products/pmdf/ It was TGV that produced multinet. It was not from France, but named for the fast train in France. They were located in Santa Cruz. They were the main competitor to TWG, The Wollongong Group in the VMS TCP/IP space. Warner --000000000000f60b64056f8f54ce Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 7:09 AM, Tony Finch <dot@dotat.at> wr= ote:
Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com> wrote:

> Anyway, the folks that did PMDF formed a small firm and sold it for a<= br> > while.=C2=A0 There was a commercial IP implementation from France call= TUV
> for VMS and IIRC, the TUV folks bought PMDF and whole thing got sold t= o
> a lot people and had quite a ride .

Still has, it seems! http://www.process.com/product= s/pmdf/

It was TGV that produced multin= et. It was not from France, but named for the fast train in France. They we= re located in Santa Cruz. They were the main competitor to TWG, The Wollong= ong Group in the VMS TCP/IP space.

Warner=C2=A0
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