From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: imp@bsdimp.com (Warner Losh) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2018 08:46:15 -0700 Subject: [TUHS] Dynamics between BSD and Linux In-Reply-To: <20180202152904.GG2632@mcvoy.com> References: <20180202034448.GA2796@mcvoy.com> <20180202150706.26FII%steffen@sdaoden.eu> <20180202152904.GG2632@mcvoy.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 8:29 AM, Larry McVoy wrote: > On Fri, Feb 02, 2018 at 04:07:06PM +0100, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: > > Larry McVoy wrote: > > ... > > |Here's a personal example of the differences. When I was looking at > > |working with Netflix I emailed McKuisik to ask him about some UFS > stuff. > > |And this was me, I know Kirk, I've been to his house, had wine with him > > |and Eric. No reply. Ok, I'm old and washed up, I get it. > > > > Even though i have read your message as a maybe even ironic > > sharpening, i feel i have to step in and find this hard to > > believe. Maybe there have been technical reasons. > > I didn't really mean to shine a light on Kirk, I like Kirk, I'm one of > the few people besides Kirk to work on UFS. > There's about a dozen. They talk. Even Kirk. But you can't expect people whose time is their own to reply to you on a short timeline. It's not a reasonable expectation. That said, I stand by what I said, it's what happened. And it seems to > be reflective of the BSD "culture", it appears to be the opposite of > inclusive. Disappointing. > I've had a completely different experience. But when people don't answer, I ask again. I just just go off and sulk that they were mean to me. > Linux has a very different culture. Everyone is welcome and they > maintain sanity largely via Linus willing to call a spade a spade. > He doesn't suffer fools but he's willing to engage with anyone until > they prove themselves to be a fool and nothing more. > Sure, if you love a toxic culture that's hard to break through the machismo when the anointed ones are wrong.... Needless to say, I have a completely different perspective and two-decades-long experience with BSD and its collaboration. Warner -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: