From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 7791 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2022 22:57:11 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (2600:3c01:e000:146::1) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 3 Jun 2022 22:57:11 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38F4F421EB; Sat, 4 Jun 2022 08:57:08 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-vk1-xa2c.google.com (mail-vk1-xa2c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::a2c]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6DDF4421EA for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2022 08:57:03 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-vk1-xa2c.google.com with SMTP id j11so4018029vka.6 for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2022 15:57:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=T7ZUyBqO02K0/JCiuN3XpE+FLereSAdTShvGISuO5PA=; b=lSHwtA5XW+AKJagcELyxPhcPQ9x0ILv61asm6YkXJJiI18+EVx0FLLmYA2yGyC2OHg 3S2AydxmzvZQeG3wpJeIZbMWzaj1fpdd/DQXNYq8zocO0MJQhr4GJotRdbDL4liIJBE7 X1OjpZ742uaFXTUzrDDQ3LayOSyD4l3zUObWnbGPAsVkGcBfDe5Pr9HwvJMQmip1BZsI FbStsoa3KxULnygUsMtlcNlosZA/9TwVyrf8x5KQ9C52/f2EuNsX/NFSHsJXiWqr7IML u549q1ggacf6fbKF2ocFoOPgvAzD7TvuXa8tD70trhYaBrIGJHjMpA0chIrkbDlY6C0Z PGMQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=T7ZUyBqO02K0/JCiuN3XpE+FLereSAdTShvGISuO5PA=; b=Lq3i1uj2TwjB0zkyWrNnltMGw2gat2AN3zj9OMo+UY7fzCqwKkpFW2YjMbpbD8XN8e 69mNxtHXP+wX+KdbvO8QE3wmv7sgtpEfXlspR0R9vnSdPZ2nLazOZCs5lrl92WnOICpw ZXVwoetnPblr+YAsew379ul2oHHyhi1GLOxNDG8f8qyf9QwsZ2d2GBJX8opnwZeVbXKn /Cx6VAoRGgjRrSBoav5rhQjo7dCnZ4UcCYuZw6cgrvpjAIAaPI3/MY27ux7h7ma7SBII 1wrHrpH44VjuVItJEXaCwjXHfzGkLw6+38mZKn+nLNWocshfXdKZw5652v7RlS8YWMEH 13jA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531ex+cfUAs9abkOjxmgawZ/3qOYF4j3qhgeOCmsjBNM70nLx2HU 7iEK2tVxOGUXbs45Vs77UFtCjCXsbSDT4j+wRKHJmQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwc0aV3GQjQf/MHeOzpkVcY3T6x3noV2jh9Q1y/VwztpfFWzchHN72o4Eo/8fSaXajgCp70sjrbz0XrNFqG+o4= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:4646:0:b0:35c:f391:4c24 with SMTP id t67-20020a1f4646000000b0035cf3914c24mr5238952vka.34.1654297022225; Fri, 03 Jun 2022 15:57:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20220603202330.f4spdxyn34uiyy5v@illithid> <20220603213215.GO10240@mcvoy.com> <20220603214032.GQ10240@mcvoy.com> In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2022 16:56:51 -0600 Message-ID: To: Tom Ivar Helbekkmo Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000005cee2905e0930a1b" Message-ID-Hash: PKPRA3BC2KLDXWSHLDIYADEZB77G37GH X-Message-ID-Hash: PKPRA3BC2KLDXWSHLDIYADEZB77G37GH X-MailFrom: wlosh@bsdimp.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Fwd: [simh] Announcing the Open SIMH project List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --0000000000005cee2905e0930a1b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 4:40 PM Tom Ivar Helbekkmo wrote: > Warner Losh writes: > > > The FreeBSD 1.x CVS tree shows that it started from NET/2 with the > > patchkit added on. It didn't start from the NetBSD tree that I've been > > able to find (and I've studied the early CVS history for the git > > migration extensively). > > Yeah, I guess it might be better to say that after Chris took the > initiative to create a fork, which he named NetBSD, of Jolitz's 386bsd, > it was decided that there would be two forks; NetBSD and FreeBSD, with > slightly differing objectives. > Yea, there were a number of folks that contributed to the patchkit as well. Chris did a good thing to try to bring order to that chaos, there is no doubt, but Nate Williams, Paul Richards and others were big contributors to the patchkit and the lines of what happened where were somewhat blurry at the time as people discovered they were working at cross purposes and/or had issues working with some people.... Thankfully, for the most part the high levels of animosity that developed in the early 90s between the BSD projects have largely faded away as new groups of developers have joined the projects... Warner --0000000000005cee2905e0930a1b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 4:40 PM Tom Iv= ar Helbekkmo <tih@hamartun.priv.= no> wrote:
imp@b= sdimp.com> writes:

> The FreeBSD 1.x CVS tree shows that it started from NET/2 with the
> patchkit added on. It didn't start from the NetBSD tree that I'= ;ve been
> able to find (and I've studied the early CVS history for the git > migration extensively).

Yeah, I guess it might be better to say that after Chris took the
initiative to create a fork, which he named NetBSD, of Jolitz's 386bsd,=
it was decided that there would be two forks; NetBSD and FreeBSD, with
slightly differing objectives.

Yea, the= re were a number of folks that contributed to the patchkit as
wel= l. Chris did a good thing to try to bring order to that chaos, there is
no doubt, but Nate Williams, Paul Richards and others were big contr= ibutors
to the patchkit and the lines of what=C2=A0happened where= were somewhat
blurry at the time as people discovered they were= =C2=A0working at cross purposes
and/or had issues working with so= me people....

Thankfully, for the most part the hi= gh levels of animosity that developed in
the early 90s between th= e BSD projects have largely faded away as new
groups of developer= s have joined the projects...

Warner
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