From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 13535 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2021 06:02:17 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 6 Apr 2021 06:02:17 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 06D369CACB; Tue, 6 Apr 2021 16:02:14 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15A999C883; Tue, 6 Apr 2021 16:01:28 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.i=@bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.b="w88csJGM"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id D97C09C883; Tue, 6 Apr 2021 16:01:26 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qt1-f175.google.com (mail-qt1-f175.google.com [209.85.160.175]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2B1139C83D for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2021 16:01:25 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qt1-f175.google.com with SMTP id x9so10380276qto.8 for ; Mon, 05 Apr 2021 23:01:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=66zppPCerJfgQnvlfBKHO+sIX+SXflXSrhAHAydB8AI=; b=w88csJGMuqxH3NVTNSlvjyUB1DFcbOHIxHg2e25r1XqDUvPq6sWAQx27Wd2R0MU2dO oBo1iJ7E0dXJ622SXLRabrql5s6WYpecJK0davH5jYQfE6FlnfrAWYUXM4TVqpzCF++h 3JX+HJSErQyslBw8QduxOiNh4MyjeeRlyFZeeJUAh/k2qrL8f+aLoLTyj0kUB2YzeD4G nSr3mtw32YG+s/noZ8LoTA4DASeyhnHb0X7Qj0pO2QW7IG3hxPcvl7hRe6ZipfiZnj/e Ahl2P1P9auz/kPnh+lJ5Y17B8MC6xMbXZY78/ISzY8Xg4vfT1MHjmc9/yhqvyi7AWl8m jA6g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=66zppPCerJfgQnvlfBKHO+sIX+SXflXSrhAHAydB8AI=; b=K7M230zUs7H4LtPRTBHF9ZC2Um5WPKU/Xi0eIYb9p/1LfhyP3BXNw5OoMpB6+9aA7l Xd01FWi5gXQkm3jdjfnm3Y2WTNXAZZSTJuIHVYZLuo76er9uW18KpeoYZZ2K5RGvKGJB zWku8d3GyjLxlLcfn15WLy1WGnx8FjFcOG67QI/uDFOm9TcrSvpqXBCjrSB3OCeyB35Q X7Ii/g43seVxZhRAUS9T1+CL5uVEIrriMxmdMix+ySwdlUYajM3VpE+f/1+6Uyrjj3d5 v9UROPcJkeuj6FAh06/tGae/IHnrKK1eOkNHBh+h5ic3t4ogCezVhwisjzhGm6ULNQDV XM4A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531sE24GJhpR0XbegNSctDPI7zaBZr9huGLgF77rJFlD0isgJwRm +fazIVP0TeBCya1pB8inHMWlXbErah/1I+wG7C9g7w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxDvbUDKfOXZ7fDPFvRWFtrIBOD0nEYIcB5nNwLJoDQKUBOmuGYDyS9gfqjzj1PWrZlaFywP9dG2YL8LgUFs8g= X-Received: by 2002:a05:622a:3c8:: with SMTP id k8mr26343416qtx.101.1617688884278; Mon, 05 Apr 2021 23:01:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20210405162050.DBFDD640CB7@lignose.oclsc.org> <202104051831.135IVKJS013930@freefriends.org> In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2021 00:01:13 -0600 Message-ID: To: Dave Horsfall Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000004e1e7c05bf478b75" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Whither Usenix [was How To Kill A Technical Conference] X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --0000000000004e1e7c05bf478b75 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 11:55 PM Dave Horsfall wrote: > On Mon, 5 Apr 2021, arnold@skeeve.com wrote: > > > Yes, exactly. For me, Usenix provides little added value. I had been > > debating leaving Usenix for several years already; the move to soft copy > > ;login: clinched it for me. I'm not happy about it, but I had to > > recognize my personal reality. > > I was not a member of Usenix; I was just a founding member (and past > President) of AUUG, which decided to dissolve after we had done our job > i.e. bring Unix to Australia. > > I used to enjoy reading the Usenix snippets in AUUGN, though. For some time, those were the only widely available surviving snippets of the early days of Usenix newsletters. Too bad copyright law severely limited what was published after the first few times. I've been quite impressed with the AUUGN having read almost all the early issues. It's quite the travel log of Unix coming to Australia and colonizing different niches. Warner --0000000000004e1e7c05bf478b75 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 11:55 PM Dave = Horsfall <dave@horsfall.org>= wrote:
On Mon, = 5 Apr 2021, arnold@s= keeve.com wrote:

> Yes, exactly. For me, Usenix provides little added value. I had been <= br> > debating leaving Usenix for several years already; the move to soft co= py
> ;login: clinched it for me. I'm not happy about it, but I had to <= br> > recognize my personal reality.

I was not a member of Usenix; I was just a founding member (and past
President) of AUUG, which decided to dissolve after we had done our job i.e. bring Unix to Australia.

I used to enjoy reading the Usenix snippets in AUUGN, though.
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For some time, those were the only widely available surv= iving snippets of the early days of Usenix newsletters. Too bad copyright l= aw severely limited what was published after the first few times.

I've been quite impressed with the AUUGN having read al= most all the early issues. It's quite the travel log of Unix coming to = Australia and colonizing different niches.

Warner<= /div>
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