From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 30159 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2020 03:37:28 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 22 Jul 2020 03:37:28 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 3BD349C8DE; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 13:37:27 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D19BF9C8C3; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 13:36:19 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.i=@bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.b="LWyI0KKc"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 774F59C8C3; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 13:36:11 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qk1-f170.google.com (mail-qk1-f170.google.com [209.85.222.170]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F0F893D09 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 13:36:10 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qk1-f170.google.com with SMTP id k18so752027qke.4 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 20:36:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=4FejcPrTxfF0yzQmmfAPMld1c1oWAOYHPQeFsQ/LnDA=; b=LWyI0KKcK/HlQR8B/mHtw6UjMPvPyNQqVVfjhd9jLGcZr/7vRVFnoNxKqhLxVPHRUt sNX3Oxb17awuR3sQ5vDWSRr9ge99WjZJ2QKBpft9svgAHFFzH0yP5CWSQ0q3bDXvANIL SS9pCNrD/TgnFbdPAmvNN5R3ElI4yd04S6nPYKh8eH1a1dD6c0koCjbgU+guEhttvD9I znU076jNlnwwG4jvXDNlA8+ad9g42lME5hNVisPSmgplqY6zCRLuYTG9am2VtiZL0Gn1 LsOC4jWIop01USUARtMOsdYzXANNpF6JR0owzjLpkA2c6cDpk78BUukj3Au1lOBb1HS9 9twQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=4FejcPrTxfF0yzQmmfAPMld1c1oWAOYHPQeFsQ/LnDA=; b=q+jGRozXOf6KxsSQG8lu42LsVgMATqFi83nQENH8XKcMlQrPtIv8p9rpf+5uohuWLU AF2sQ253PMkE4YWSKio5vthNxxEReWUf6S5UmxjANNsqWqlnR+NDLfQL2mXlhS1Nudva HvaUbt4YjYdub+HF1lRVx2HDwoT8CxyxhFSgHZyYhPpE8BgrlQnDxKCjKxAweXxu+sJz Mk5fQ1I21iU49mU7y4YQcjguHxhc+XkHRcw0kRzpmd1VqT7Hfyjy4EoX3qNpf64p3tbr t2dDEar60qjHUOhhIb8VG6yTOYJJx9PmBdkr99t8QnuOdkRGP0VETs39H54k7kEjtf9x U4OQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531EcTXaDo/iHox30k3MIX6VtMpJhmWQyvP42sIjk5a94CW1I/r8 Jbd30fSorveYnJCajjNv8BSJNXf2O4+dQWonsg/ZVVNO X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJx4qxBljl0NjtQcKv1Aih79T4kiuehlivxwpUYoigGVPyhQQ7ZZp2Dh/9Y65ryoJYsH0f1cVXajhejhDkO4gec= X-Received: by 2002:a37:4d97:: with SMTP id a145mr28733378qkb.380.1595388968866; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 20:36:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <862d8a34-456d-33c1-7ef0-58c6e8089de9@tnetconsulting.net> <202007211822.06LIMBJ4018831@freefriends.org> <20200722011603.GA1536749@mit.edu> In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 21:35:56 -0600 Message-ID: To: Grant Taylor Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c4ae7b05aaff70d8" Subject: Re: [TUHS] /bin vs /sbin X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000c4ae7b05aaff70d8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Tue, Jul 21, 2020, 9:30 PM Grant Taylor via TUHS wrote: > On 7/21/20 7:16 PM, tytso@mit.edu wrote: > > Yeah, that's definitely not right. /sbin had been around for > > "essential system binaries" long before Linux, and Linux took it > > from there. > > I'm sorry, I think there has been a misunderstanding. I did not mean to > imply that Linux influenced the larger Unix community with /sbin. > Rather the other way around, that that's the time that Linux had been > influenced about /sbin. > > > You can see this from the Linux Filesystem Hierarchy Standard (earlier > > named fsstnd, which specified /sbin as "essential system binaries"). > > I should revisit that, particularly in light of an older name and use. > > > SunOS used that nomenclature and the GNU tools all used /sbin for > > that purpose. > > Did Solaris follow in SunOS's foot steps? Or did Solaris do something > different? > > > The other thing I'd again urge is that you not take HJ Lu's boot/root > > disks as being influencial after early 1992. > > Okay. I naively thought that HJ Lu's boot/root was falling out of favor > in '93, a year later. Thank you for clarifying Warner. > I think it was Ted clarifying me :) Warner > > -- > Grant. . . . > unix || die > > --000000000000c4ae7b05aaff70d8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Tue, Jul 21, 2020, 9:30 PM Grant Taylor via TUHS &l= t;tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org> wrot= e:
On 7/21/20 7:16 PM, tytso@mit.edu= wrote:
> Yeah, that's definitely not right.=C2=A0 /sbin had been around for=
> "essential system binaries" long before Linux, and Linux too= k it
> from there.

I'm sorry, I think there has been a misunderstanding.=C2=A0 I did not m= ean to
imply that Linux influenced the larger Unix community with /sbin.
Rather the other way around, that that's the time that Linux had been <= br> influenced about /sbin.

> You can see this from the Linux Filesystem Hierarchy Standard (earlier=
> named fsstnd, which specified /sbin as "essential system binaries= ").

I should revisit that, particularly in light of an older name and use.

> SunOS used that nomenclature and the GNU tools all used /sbin for
> that purpose.

Did Solaris follow in SunOS's foot steps?=C2=A0 Or did Solaris do somet= hing
different?

> The other thing I'd again urge is that you not take HJ Lu's bo= ot/root
> disks as being influencial after early 1992.

Okay.=C2=A0 I naively thought that HJ Lu's boot/root was falling out of= favor
in '93, a year later.=C2=A0 Thank you for clarifying Warner.

I think it = was Ted clarifying me :)

Warner

--
Grant. . . .
unix || die

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