From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 2868 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2023 03:08:07 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (2600:3c01:e000:146::1) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 10 Feb 2023 03:08:07 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9227C40E6A; Fri, 10 Feb 2023 13:08:02 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ej1-x62f.google.com (mail-ej1-x62f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::62f]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C3AF40CD4 for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2023 13:07:57 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ej1-x62f.google.com with SMTP id sa10so12371524ejc.9 for ; Thu, 09 Feb 2023 19:07:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=6BBIM6dtskHKZaFO0Q5SPWqI1zjhvJwLz2cq9qvth6k=; b=lld7r9ij+lhD7TAxyOfAnDzQCTEUP8uSlWidvWrFKkD3Z8iIxlRs28RQykp+CKhJbP mPpw9+Z5xDVKm6rEwVXbs7QxpsUkeoo/kQYKD5p+lqYReUwnugTRCduUVIN7PjYbHRO8 3KcKJNPoyjtJRaeOiCFxSh4rVWuTsA88kPqnbMlyLEu3wkzvrwON6LJrkDWaGfnKSAzN T4aEBvvDsTUcgg5eDXw7xXu+vZuSBWdHAGTQIaBKFByHMIljYj3okLvyiBZN/VhwAE5s jMoy8vL9WsFmuVlAgcnrWApqUIc3s5ACoEiDknhvHsffAqimgCjtEtDVy8zF1Y4WPe7j 6QDA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=6BBIM6dtskHKZaFO0Q5SPWqI1zjhvJwLz2cq9qvth6k=; b=qWk9RyKPb0UlIPrnZmFeeEFdQ3mJa6HPRlhgYIel20rvNtRrzEjg1VXHkxIv4MQ0vc K8uXf/XGb9eSHPtnxcqXgLtBoZ7lIZGCO5DWRcIzx+R2208by8f4mSkFVBA39hi5He3F cNUuKbHbj/YwETcLuL6KPf1PhLXgHPUZB2HGAhAsaC6CTECPy1Xw1l53ybI7qFtPEQSe rJseRZg6MQa3JwZ4X2WhiF1ZS12IHgWaaMw6qfaMWqlOHBkacMSRzWrxvA0RfJatDfLg D6vMrd5jrDBNHPLuBMcffGqsbLPICM1FiCSSMgIS8Ar+t3gKIet01EOkF0JW83Zl7T6W 5uuQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKUBoeB+yyNSgLnQY5w9ERdQQogIBXi9W98VGfjd1u8pzw3W9NzR uQ2nJzbOxrk59Vsai+kCZ9F446lzO6hLccho26jdYf0qyjXbBg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set8/FOi4Xq3fGW8J9tp4Pz+MIORal+vWKn8qrpA0qUPsuadwl7VAG+z72NRSVpjCOBdjjwmc9FMs29btkJR92kM= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:2f17:b0:888:c14e:70b6 with SMTP id v23-20020a1709062f1700b00888c14e70b6mr3080143eji.306.1675998475489; Thu, 09 Feb 2023 19:07:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2023 20:07:45 -0700 Message-ID: To: segaloco Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c6b21905f44fcd31" Message-ID-Hash: LXPRGRUBDSIXP3M5ZBXJRX5UKVRUCBBI X-Message-ID-Hash: LXPRGRUBDSIXP3M5ZBXJRX5UKVRUCBBI X-MailFrom: wlosh@bsdimp.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: UNIX/TS 4.x Findings List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000c6b21905f44fcd31 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Thu, Feb 9, 2023 at 6:30 PM segaloco via TUHS wrote: > The more I look at things, the more 5.0 appears to actually be a minor > release compared to what all was going on in the 4.x era. From 4.1 to 5.0 > So let's look at release dates: 4.2BSD released August 1983 4.3BSD released May 1986 System V released sometime in 1983 (so TS 5.0 was 1982 by convention?) 5.0 felt like a minor release... (even after TS 4.2) Sure sounds like it was rebranded to 5.0 to avoid confusion with 4.2BSD which was released around... as well as to have a '.0' zero feel to it but neatly avoiding that by calling it V... Anybody here know for sure? I have a vague memory of Dr McKusick mentioning this off hand in one of his informal talks or maybe it was over dinner at a conference... Warner --000000000000c6b21905f44fcd31 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Thu, Feb 9, 2023 at 6:30 PM segalo= co via TUHS <tuhs@tuhs.org> wrot= e:
The more I lo= ok at things, the more 5.0 appears to actually be a minor release compared = to what all was going on in the 4.x era.=C2=A0 From 4.1 to 5.0

So let's look at release dates:

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4.2BSD released August 1983
4.3BSD released May 1986

System V released sometime in 1983 (so TS 5.0 was 19= 82 by convention?)

5.0 felt like a minor relea= se... (even after TS 4.2) Sure sounds like it was rebranded to 5.0 to avoid= confusion with 4.2BSD which was released around... as well as to have a &#= 39;.0' zero feel to it but neatly avoiding that by calling it V...
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Anybody here know for sure? I have a vague memory = of Dr McKusick mentioning this off hand in one of his informal talks or may= be it was over dinner at a conference...

Warne= r
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