On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 4:00 PM Dan Cross wrote: > I'm curious about other peoples' thoughts on the talk and the overall > topic? > My comment is that the mental map that he presents has always been a lie. At least it's been a lie from a very early time. Even in Unibus/Qbus days, the add-in cards had some kind of processor on it from an early time. Several of the VAX boards had 68000 or similar CPUs that managed memory. Even the simpler MFM boards had buffer memory that needed to be managed before the DMA/PIO pulled it out of the card. There's always been an element of different address spaces with different degrees of visibility into those address spaces. What has changed is all of these things are now on the SoC die so you have good visibility (well, as good as the docs) into these things. The number of different things has increased, and the for cross domain knowledge has increased. The simplistic world view was even inaccurate at the start.... Warner