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From: imp@bsdimp.com (Warner Losh)
Subject: [TUHS] FORTRAN
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 14:27:39 -0600	[thread overview]
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On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 2:21 PM, Paul Winalski <paul.winalski at gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 3/20/18, Ron Natalie <ron at ronnatalie.com> wrote:
> > Having worked on system programming for UNIX and a few of the PDP-11 DEC
> > OS’s (DOS, RT, RSX, and in passing RSTS), I can tell you Fortran was
> > abhorrent.
> >
> Yes, Fortran is as awful for system programming as C is for numeric
> programming that involves throwing multidimensional arrays around.
> Screwdrivers always make bad hammers.
>

With care, and the right additional pseudo-primitives, you can do quite
interesting systems-programming-like things in Fortran. But they are
usually a variation on RATFOR and often involve more pain than would
otherwise have been needed, but it's possible. I once did some low-level
systems stuff in FORTRAN-66 that lived under a psuedo Fortran 77
pre-processor that had some CPP-like macro features....

And I will never, ever, do it again :). I might do Turbo-PASCAL again, but
no system's programming in Fortran.

Warner
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Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-16 21:52 [TUHS] RIP John Backus Dave Horsfall
2018-03-16 23:42 ` Dan Stromberg
2018-03-17  0:08   ` Dave Horsfall
2018-03-17  0:26     ` Arthur Krewat
2018-03-17  0:36       ` Dave Horsfall
2018-03-17  1:40       ` Charles H Sauer
2018-03-17  1:57 ` Nemo
2018-03-17  7:20 ` Bakul Shah
2018-03-17 13:43 ` Clem Cole
2018-03-17 17:06   ` Steve Simon
2018-03-17 19:15     ` Pierre DAVID
2018-03-17 19:41       ` Charles Anthony
2018-03-18 11:02       ` Steve Simon
2018-03-17 19:22   ` Tim Bradshaw
2018-03-17 19:28   ` Mike Markowski
2018-03-18 18:51 ` Paul Winalski
2018-03-18 21:07   ` Clem Cole
2018-03-19 14:50     ` Dan Cross
2018-03-19 15:43       ` Clem Cole
2018-03-19 15:46         ` Clem Cole
2018-03-19 17:39           ` Paul Winalski
2018-03-19 17:43             ` George Michaelson
2018-03-19 18:16               ` Steve Nickolas
2018-03-19 17:48             ` Clem Cole
2018-03-19 17:59               ` Jon Forrest
2018-03-19 18:40                 ` Tom Ivar Helbekkmo
2018-03-19 19:40                   ` Arthur Krewat
2018-03-19 15:55       ` Clem Cole
2018-03-19 16:58         ` [TUHS] FORTRAN Steve Johnson
2018-03-19 17:32           ` Jon Forrest
2018-03-20 17:42             ` Paul Winalski
2018-03-20 17:47               ` George Michaelson
2018-03-19 18:47           ` Larry McVoy
2018-03-20 18:15           ` Dan Cross
2018-03-20 19:55             ` Ron Natalie
2018-03-20 20:21               ` Paul Winalski
2018-03-20 20:27                 ` Warner Losh [this message]
2018-03-21  8:10                 ` Peter Jeremy
2018-03-21 20:56                   ` Ron Natalie
2018-03-21 21:15                 ` Dennis Boone
2018-03-20 21:36               ` Clem Cole
2018-03-20 21:59                 ` Ron Natalie
2018-03-20 23:00                 ` Bakul Shah
2018-03-21 13:48                 ` Paul Winalski
2018-03-21 20:55                   ` Ron Natalie
2018-03-18 21:26   ` [TUHS] RIP John Backus Tim Bradshaw
2018-03-19  0:26   ` Steve Johnson
2018-03-19 14:26     ` Warner Losh
2018-03-21 14:51 [TUHS] FORTRAN Noel Chiappa
2018-03-21 21:57 ` Charles Anthony
     [not found] <mailman.48.1521640130.3788.tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
2018-03-21 22:58 ` Johnny Billquist

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