From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: imp@bsdimp.com (Warner Losh) Date: Tue, 15 May 2018 09:12:00 -0600 Subject: [TUHS] Good ol' ed (Was *ROFF) In-Reply-To: References: <01e701d3ec45$e7211580$b5634080$@ronnatalie.com> <201805151417.w4FEHcIF009897@freefriends.org> <20180515143752.GA7115@mcvoy.com> Message-ID: Lord knows I learned Unix by watching my peers type it... In the long run that was both good and bad, though, since now all I get to see people type are shell scripts which range from brilliant to rubbish... The only way to know where on that spectrum things are is to read a bunch of them... and to get burned a few times stealing the techniques that are best described, in hindsight, as "it seemed like a good idea at the time." Warner On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 8:47 AM, Clem cole wrote: > Yeah. We lost that and it was a good thing. Programming became a > operation between you and your computer in the privacy of your own office. > > Sent from my PDP-7 Running UNIX V0 expect things to be almost but not > quite. > > > On May 15, 2018, at 10:37 AM, Larry McVoy wrote: > > > >> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 08:17:38AM -0600, arnold at skeeve.com wrote: > >> "Ron Natalie" wrote: > >> > >>> I never really learned VI. I can stumbled through it in ex mode if I > have > >>> to. If there's no EMACS on the UNIX system I'm using, I use ed. > >>> You get real good at regular expressions. Some of my employees were > >>> pretty amazed at how fast I could make code changes with just ed. > >> > >> I did learn vi, after having learned ed first. I drop down to the ex > >> command line for major regexp-based surgery too. I also get the > amazement > >> from co-workers who watch me do stuff. :-) This is particularly true > >> of the, er, younger coworkers (kids today ... :-) who can't manage > >> outside an IDE. > > > > In fairness to them, I don't know how you learn the good stuff outside > > of a terminal room. I learned so much by watching the screen change > > and going "WTF? How did you do that?" > > > > There is only so much you can stuff into a manual. > > -- > > --- > > Larry McVoy lm at mcvoy.com > http://www.mcvoy.com/lm > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: