From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 33f72101 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2020 03:35:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 43EC49CC0E; Wed, 5 Feb 2020 13:35:46 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A40D9CC07; Wed, 5 Feb 2020 13:35:13 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.i=@bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.b="gu00sPg0"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 0D9099CC07; Wed, 5 Feb 2020 13:35:11 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qk1-f180.google.com (mail-qk1-f180.google.com [209.85.222.180]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BBF749CB14 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2020 13:35:09 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qk1-f180.google.com with SMTP id g3so526377qka.1 for ; Tue, 04 Feb 2020 19:35:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=udKuUzJ9UgnBHlREByelmiz2cccYkU08NdNCYfjAoCI=; b=gu00sPg0Ah9miTmJA5Pc+qVscKun5AooOOwRwKJ7/buPupQno5qDPOx2XHBgBrZYR5 CQAAdBoIi9A8YfQpWF4KOFkQauHm59hajYXhGujwjseYEUMSf6UgZk+rniSlo69W4arw sZfmpbYFcvkakpRvpVcgVhAuIKfnsg2O3lMsc9/Fwh3V9qsr2WA/bLugLWtOn9joWRgt etaU1F2sRXOFCZVkG9oBdfb5LYHASZnfFTtGi3dcaTG+UOCHXG6rEYTh90nFiTu4t6n7 0J2ybdPFHM7NqcFevH9hmyV7Is/P1uJgv0p+c2FXXncrXdg5kdG5MuI1uZwqHaQZEAJu 1lsg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=udKuUzJ9UgnBHlREByelmiz2cccYkU08NdNCYfjAoCI=; b=Mxnxr7rss1vbEuC3q5nPnq+xVRTd9SL5nDeno8xv+Pgiiz1yEA6Xc52B4nBtbiP647 Q/aE15VuhBRqycNQdkm5d8Ci1Ml2J3jEmSF3Q+pQPQAQvIqhmOBEYaLOufZeMKtbyTAN xoKpE2ONMVXdJhpvJOzpQfBL/FBFr6H1tOg9aArUPWwCdPh2PYE2VAboAJeifHpDcSpM hFrnB4WYLcKfqFzwhGt88sEHyyGIauNjnLAFfSGwQIH4ps8cb7Rz5mLH0C+fkMy4Up7A QOZ3EOGCNuedynCw5uUx/gDG/kXiadc9xSyNbOf1k5IyXYiT+sfXU/VYWg+N1j2qtk5X Jf8g== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWlT5x3pMTJixnYJ7VYZfmXmJq2L1D+fyPkRGTu3NMisrEDTGus JE50G9zMaA+lBqxreHEuJ8UcxSlZppmpUu86yrjCqw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyzZLMOivJ0NT9eEkTU8FRJL6Af5li+nElKth5syALaILtQY2uhm6QSpS4y46nCR18YkkAxAURxha8sE0dzk+0= X-Received: by 2002:a05:620a:795:: with SMTP id 21mr32646056qka.60.1580873708648; Tue, 04 Feb 2020 19:35:08 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <9c507ef665851fd21ecdf0e23136dc86@firemail.de> <1ippPk-8PE-00@marmaro.de> <1iqMuL-1zK-00@marmaro.de> <20200204094018.661e76717f7f475e6cb53e75@sjmulder.nl> <20200204201453.ebeaabon26vbgfle@localhost.localdomain> <20200204215252.GA99776@clarinet.employees.org> In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2020 04:34:56 +0100 Message-ID: To: Rob Pike Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000d706e3059dcbd726" Subject: Re: [TUHS] pronouncing *nix formulas (was: screen editors) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000d706e3059dcbd726 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Tue, Feb 4, 2020, 4:28 PM Rob Pike wrote: > Unix room pronunciation: > > ed: Ed or E.D.; both were common > chroot: cheroot > chgrp: ch-group > chown: rhymes with "clone" > chmod: rhymes with "god" > creat: cree-at > nroff: enn-roff (because it was the descendant of roff) > troff: tee-roff > vi: (for those few who used it) V.I. I pronounced it V.I. but often > thought of Roman numerals. > Those match the way I heard them at school in the 80s... Warner Also a side note about vi: Plan 9 had another program with that name. > http://man.cat-v.org/plan_9/1/vi. The 'v' meant mips for obscure but > consistent reasons. Yet another reason the command was pronounced V.I. > regardless of its function. > > -rob > > --000000000000d706e3059dcbd726 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Tue, Feb 4, 2020, 4:28 PM Rob Pike <robpike@gmail.com> wrote:
Unix room pronunciation:

ed: Ed or E.D.; both were common
chroot: cheroot=C2=A0
chgrp: ch-group
chown: rhymes with "clone"
chmod: = rhymes with "god"
creat: cree-at
nroff: enn-roff (because i= t was the descendant of roff)
troff: tee-roff
vi: (for those f= ew who used it) V.I. I pronounced it V.I. but often thought of Roman numera= ls.

Those match the way I heard them at school in the 80s...

Warner
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Also a side note about vi: Plan 9 had anoth= er program with that name.=C2=A0http://man.cat-v.org/plan_9/1/vi= . The 'v' meant mips for obscure but consistent reasons. Yet anothe= r reason the command was pronounced V.I. regardless of its function.
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-rob

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